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  1. #71
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    Mireille's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rau View Post
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    EDIT: Please don't ruin FFXIV by letting all the 13 year olds with PS3s populate servers by adopting a f2p model. I understand you need to make a profit, but please think about the already tarnished FF name you are trying to restore. Quality is the name of the game! ; ;
    I am pretty sure F2P isn't being considered as an option. I don't recall where I read it exactly, but Yoshida at one point stated that 'F2P wasn't an option for XIV because Japanese gamers have a very low opinion of F2P games.'

    So in other words F2P would kill XIV in their home market; ergo they won't be making the game permanently F2P.

    If I am remembering correctly he also indicated that what they might do is look into a model where you don't have to have two separate accounts to login two characters at the same time, so for example a husband and wife could play together under one account. He gave no indication that this is likely to happen just that they might look into the possibility.
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  2. #72
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    pay to win refers to being able to buy anything that lets you do things faster then those who dont pay

    sounds like you are the one out of touch with the problems people have with f2p models and dont understan d them to me


    hell you even skipped my entire post and quoted me as "blablablablabla" cuz you clearly dont know what this is all about
    Pay to Win is being able to buy a Moogle Sword, Anima, or Dungeons. There's no winning in buying GC seals and EXP bonus scrolls. All it does it cut down time for people who don't necessarily want to waste their time grinding hours to get 1k seals.

    Explain to me how this is "Pay to win"
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  3. #73
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    I'm only okay with a F2P model so long as there are no pay to win options in the cash shop, and all of the content has to be available. The best F2P MMOs had cash shops with fun items, or experience bonus potions, things like that. Nothing big, and they were still very profitable.
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  4. #74
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    Quote Originally Posted by Risx View Post
    Pay to Win is being able to buy a Moogle Sword, Anima, or Dungeons. There's no winning in buying GC seals and EXP bonus scrolls. All it does it cut down time for people who don't necessarily want to waste their time grinding hours to get 1k seals.

    Explain to me how this is "Pay to win"
    any purchase which gives you an advantage is pay to win
    including being able to do things faster

    by your reasoning its also ok to buy gil from rmt cuz farming is a waste of time too i take it?


    pay to win refers to all of this activity
    any single inclusion of a purchase which gives you actual in game playable benefit(exp bonus, gil, company seals, all that is pay to win)

  5. #75
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    any purchase which gives you an advantage is pay to win
    including being able to do things faster

    by your reasoning its also ok to buy gil from rmt cuz farming is a waste of time too i take it?


    pay to win refers to all of this activity
    any single inclusion of a purchase which gives you actual in game playable benefit(exp bonus, gil, company seals, all that is pay to win)
    You just went full on retard.
    I'm done. Until you learn to think I'm so done replying. lol
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  6. #76
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    As long as FFXIV continues to be fun to play with my friends, and they all stick to playing too, I will put up with whatever model S-E decides to go with. If a free to play model was in fact to attract a younger audience, it would be a non-issue for me.
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  7. #77
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    Most mmo's these days that was originally launched as pay to play is switching to free to play with paid options. I'll still play regardless no matter the outcome as long as the content is fun.
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  8. #78
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    Risx, I'll bite.

    Please tell me how you differentiate between the following:

    Using cash to purchase an Ifrit Weapon, bypassing the farm-time needed for Totems/rare drop,
    Using cash to purchase EXP scrolls, bypassing the farm time needed for EXP
    Using cash to purchase GC seals, bypassing the farm time needed to purchase rare items & EXP scrolls.
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  9. #79
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    If this goes f2p I'm quitting. I'm not willing to pay more than a subscription fee. Having to calculate fun vs cost would spike my stress.
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    Luna Sushima
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiote View Post
    lol No offense, but your delusional if you honestly think 90% of that wasn't already planned before Yoshida took over.

    Tanaka was, to put it simply, a fall guy.
    Already Planned? if it was We wouldn't need 2.0 now would we? Every one has a different Vision. Yes somethings that Yoshi-p "may like" Like Hamlet Defense for Example, he liked it, he wants it in his Vision, so yes He took that Idea. But every man is different, so His Vision will be what you call "90%" Different. You honestly think this was all a set up? Tanaka Stepping down, and Yoshi-P becoming the Savior of this game? And you say I'm Delusional. :/.

    Oh well, it is what it is.
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