Quote Originally Posted by Vyrerus View Post
I'm talking about the effect of Critical Hit as a stat..
If you want to use all the stats then sure.

We'll use the 2.38 sets for both of them listed in: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...#gid=849857335

Stat weights listed here: https://www.akhmorning.com/allagan-studies/stats/


DRK
Crit 4175 (28% rate, 63% damage) average modifier is 1.1764
DH 1460 (18% rate) average modifier 1.045
Det 1965 modifer is 1.064
Ten 809 tiier modifier is 1.013
Sks 1523 tier. Modifier is 1.045

WAR
Crit 4077 modifier is 1.624
DH 1.25
Det 3107 tier modifer is 1.109
Ten 875 tier modifier is 1.015

"(300*1.1*1.168*1.045*1.095)*3 = 1323.15 for the AOE attacks from Esteem (1084.05)"

This is incorrect. 300 potency is what is listed on the tooltip but because of pet formula, it's true potency is closer to 360(thanks to not having to suffer the tank trait mastery). You can test this ingame by eyeballing Esteem's hit and compare it to Soul Eater.

(210*1.1*1.1764*1.045*1.064*1.013)*5 = 1,530.4 (Quietus)
(150*1.1*1.1764*1.045*1.064*1.013)*2 = 437.26 (Unleash)
(160*1.1*1.1764*1.045*1.064*1.013) = 233.20 (Stalwart Soul)
(300*1.1*1.1764*1.045*1.064*1.013)*5 = 2,186.28 (Flood)
(200*1.1*1.1764*1.045*1.064*1.013) = 291.50 (Abyssal Drain)
(360*1.1*1.1764*1.045*1.064*1.013)*3 = 1,574.12 (Living Shadow)
(60*1.1*1.1764*1.045*1.064*1.013*1.045)*6 = 548.31 (Salted Earth)

Total 6,801.07
(Btw doing the same formula to the total gets the same exact result so..)

WAR
1200 (Chaotic Cyclone)
1250 (IRDecimate)
220 (IRVengeance)

2,670*1.1*1.624*1.25*1.109*1.015 = 6,711.16

55*1.1*1.17*1.109*1.015 = 79.69 (Vengeance)

Total 6,790.85

Yes RNG is fluid and DRK may not crit roll sometimes but that is the point of applying the average modifier. DRK is not getting their benefits of the stats when they don't crit/dhit, and they are getting the benefit of it when they do. What happens when DRK gets godroll 70% rate? It blows WAR off the source. That's also why Auto crit/dhit sucks fundamentally *imo*.

It is not *safe* to assume 0% crit/dhit amounts in a realistic situation when there are very many rolls for it with each instance of attack.

And again, the calculations above are being generous with WAR. For the first pull I'll strip away Storm's Eye because of the potency loss of putting it up, suddenly WARs total drops dramatically down to 6,173.48.

The whole hypothesis in the end is flawed because there's a 6th usage of Quietus missing for DRK isntead of a 2nd unleash, third Chaotic Cyclone cannot fit in 8 GCDs, and Unleashx2+Stalwart Soul > Storm's Eye combo by a magnitude of the 3+++ targets in the pull sequence. Not to mention giving WAR all those breaks yet not giving DRK their Dark Arts stock. WHM will also shit on WARs vengeance in a regular standard composition as well.

I will however stand corrected on the weight of gear difference with det and vengeance closing the gap between the two classes.