Quote Originally Posted by Jijifli View Post
I mean, I get I wasn't there myself, but just from being told what was going on, this player was...

1) not using their job stone
2) would always instantly pull the boss, but without tank stance, they wouldn't keep threat.
3) wasn't even attacking the ads for the second phase, which means it's also likely they weren't attacking the boss either.

For other cases, I think you can easily work down the line. But if you wanna know what helps me judge it.

Does the player repeatedly do the exact same incorrect thing, despite any form of assistance given, without even a hint or hair or them attempting to fix it?

If a player is new, or attempting to learn, generally they will at least attempt something that is given with intent to help them. Mess it up, possibly, but at least there'd be a visible attempt.

Now if I ask, say a rdm, to please actually cast spells, and he continues to not cast spells, and just follow us around, I think, just maybe, they're doing it intentionally.
Sounds good, until you realize some people don't read chat. That's why I think kicking is the way to go in those "clear" situations. We really don't need to have more GM intervention than we need to. You can try reporting if you think they're trying to not get kicked by going into combat, but that's about where I draw the line.

Now, if they do interact in chat, then there is no excuse for not using tank stance or not having a job stone.