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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rekedi View Post
    What I don't understand is why would anyone be against this.. if you don't want to use it then it doesn't affect you.
    Every feature addition affects everyone, even if it's an optional feature that people can turn off, because (1) they program everything to be able to handle it as if everyone's using it, and (2) because it affects what other decisions they're willing or even able to make regarding the engine, memory structure, and volume of data access and transfer.
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    If you on console rip, but if you are on pc they have mods for that. Do not buy too much into the hype around it being against the TOS just do not talk about it in game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rongway View Post
    (2) because it affects what other decisions they're willing or even able to make regarding the engine, memory structure, and volume of data access and transfer.
    Ah yes, and additional character customization is something we've been... vehemently against?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Infindox View Post
    I think I don't want a "remove tail" toggle but rather the gear itself is made with tails in mind. There's a lot of pieces that feel like they forgot some races have one.

    On the subject, if you play as an Au Ra and you use mods to take off the scales and tails, you're a coward.
    Lmao. I don't even play Au Ra, yet a felt a type of way when I found a female modded Au Ra with face 1 and glasses, to have hyur ears and no horns or scales smh
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    Quote Originally Posted by REPROBEAN_CHILD View Post
    Lmao. I don't even play Au Ra, yet a felt a type of way when I found a modded Au Ra with face 1 and glasses, to have hyur ears and no horns or scales smh
    It's been a fun observation to me that au ra players seem to be the most discontent with their models (maybe just a numbers game here). I have seen more mods and "artistic reinterpretation" of this race more than any other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ItMe View Post
    Ah yes, and additional character customization is something we've been... vehemently against?
    It's not about what players want, but what the devs can give them - and in the matter of extra switches and settings for our characters, that so far has been nothing. (And to the direct detriment of Hrothgar designs in particular, or they might have been able to just add in an extra setting for hairstyle.)

    Maybe they can't add anything without also rewriting every bit of the game code that needs to handle that data. Or maybe they could theoretically add one or two things but it comes at an exponential cost of how much additional data needs to be sent between players in a busy area.

    If it is possible to add just one more thing, I feel like they would pick something that affects every race.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Infindox View Post
    On the subject, if you play as an au ra and you use mods to take off the scales and tails, you're a coward.
    Hornless Au Ra creep me out on the occasions I've come across screenshots. The female characters maybe get away with it since they're more human-looking, but males are so distinctive and they look wrong without their horns.

    (Maybe it's expectation and someone who isn't familiar with the game wouldn't think it odd in the same way, but still.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by ItMe View Post
    Ah yes, and additional character customization is something we've been... vehemently against?
    Memory constraints and increased volume of data access and transfer are the two things Yoshi-P cites quite often as the reason we can't have nice things. The devs are very conservative with these two resources, far more so than western developers.
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  9. #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    It's not about what players want, but what the devs can give them - and in the matter of extra switches and settings for our characters, that so far has been nothing. (And to the direct detriment of Hrothgar designs in particular, or they might have been able to just add in an extra setting for hairstyle.)

    Maybe they can't add anything without also rewriting every bit of the game code that needs to handle that data. Or maybe they could theoretically add one or two things but it comes at an exponential cost of how much additional data needs to be sent between players in a busy area.

    If it is possible to add just one more thing, I feel like they would pick something that affects every race.
    Yeah, probably, and considering how many races have tails I can understand why a tail switch would be considered.

    Either way, if they're unable to add any switches that's understandable.
    If they start adding switches I imagine it would open the floodgates to people requesting many MANY switches because dang are there a lot of possibilities.

    No switch will please everyone, but that's no reason to shoot down the idea (this last sentence is not directed at the person I'm quoting above, but is more in response to the person from last time. This convo is kind of hop scorching around).
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    Absenthine Starfrost
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    Quote Originally Posted by LisSquid View Post
    It's been a fun observation to me that au ra players seem to be the most discontent with their models (maybe just a numbers game here). I have seen more mods and "artistic reinterpretation" of this race more than any other.
    I'm actually quite content with my character, my only complaint is that I wish Au Ra women were less... Dainty I guess is the right word. But l love the dragon/demon design.

    Quote Originally Posted by REPROBEAN_CHILD View Post
    Lmao. I don't even play Au Ra, yet a felt a type of way when I found a modded Au Ra with face 1 and glasses, to have hyur ears and no horns or scales smh
    It grosses me out becuase most people who do it want that "asian look" that some au ra have but they don't want the defining feature that the race has. (And then most of those people have their models caked up with so much makeup and shit it's kinda eww). Same with me seeing mods that remove roe noses. That's a defining trait of that race.

    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    Hornless Au Ra creep me out on the occasions I've come across screenshots. The female characters maybe get away with it since they're more human-looking, but males are so distinctive and they look wrong without their horns.

    (Maybe it's expectation and someone who isn't familiar with the game wouldn't think it odd in the same way, but still.)
    You can usually tell becuase the models look bizzare compaired to everyone else's screenshots.
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