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    Quote Originally Posted by RolandDebreton View Post
    The nerve of them, using the normal chat features and emotes, what do they think this is, some kind of massive multiplayer role playing game? As some have pointed out people can fill the chats, and the shouts with obscenity riddled soliloquies, /pose and do repeated miquo'te stretches (which makes quite an emote sound) in an attempt to be offensive or to mimic PDA, talk about politics, sports, sex, whatever for hours. God forbid someone have fun and tell a fantasy story as a group.

    I know you RPers seem to want to have your own server, but I for one think it would be a tragedy if all the imagination and fun of an exciting group of people were lost to one place and not allowed to be shared with multiple people.

    I would not be upset if Besaid and Rabanastre were merged, good luck to you all regardless.
    Pages upon pages of text spam in say is, in fact, rude. This is just your opinion toward that kind of thing going on during RP and that is valid! However, that just means that you tolerate that form of rudeness. This is why we have different chat channels. If it were truly RP, and they were having a personal conversation in character, they would do this in /tells.

    If they intend to have it be heard so maybe another RP passerby can notice and join in. That's completely understandable and this may be normal for that type of play style. However, for people who are not involved in RP this is generally rude.

    Let's not treat Vedis like they are being unkind or unreasonable as if they are annoyed at someone with a mental disability. These are other players, just like you and I, who feel that their play style in general don't hold the same standards. They are not "special" and shouldn't be treated as such.

    I am certainly not anti RP, but the reaction to the OP throughout the pages of this thread show the opposite of why SE should designate an official RP server. Under these circumstances with low populations it would be unwise to name an RP server due to the strong opinions against the community and you'll have a big mess on your hands with a large amount of players on one server submitting applications to move servers. More so than if they didn't officially name one. It's insensitive and it's unfair to not recognize any community and not see them as valid, but for consolidation it does make more sense to acknowledge more general and larger regional specific communities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BruceyBruceyBangBang View Post
    I am certainly not anti RP, but the reaction to the OP throughout the pages of this thread show the opposite of why SE should designate an official RP server. Under these circumstances with low populations it would be unwise to name an RP server due to the strong opinions against the community and you'll have a big mess on your hands with a large amount of players on one server submitting applications to move servers. More so than if they didn't officially name one. It's insensitive and it's unfair to not recognize any community and not see them as valid, but for consolidation it does make more sense to acknowledge more general and larger regional specific communities.
    With the change in plans regarding server merges (option #2), I think most would agree that this would be the most logical course of action:

    Besaid + merge candidate = roleplay server

    I honestly don't think there would be a population issue if they went this route. Of course there would be some people who apply to leave the server. I will guarantee that's going to happen anyway, since some people who greatly dislike RP have wanted to leave Besaid for a while and this is their first chance to transfer. But there will also be people who apply to transfer to Besaid, such as scattered RPers on other servers or people who just want to join the community.

    Besaid has such a positive and tight-knit community. If you go to the world forums, you'll see that there was a movement to keep the Besaid community together through the merge, RPers and all (ironically enough, it was started by TheVedis). Roleplayers and non-roleplayers alike wanted to keep our community intact. SE officially acknowledging what the players have already decided by designating Besaid the roleplay server won't cause a mass exodus within the current community since it's already common knowledge (if only unofficial), and incoming players from the upcoming merge have a right to an informed decision. For current Besaid residents, I honestly don't see it changing a thing. But it will make it easier for other roleplayers and those who enjoy the atmosphere to find the RP hub (thus giving the RP community a chance to thrive) and won't surprise non-roleplayers who vehemently dislike that playstyle with unknowingly choosing our server.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BruceyBruceyBangBang View Post
    Pages upon pages of text spam in say is, in fact, rude. This is just your opinion toward that kind of thing going on during RP and that is valid!
    Bruce, I appreciate you granting me the validity of opinion, I will do the same. A great many things that some find annoying others build filters in their minds for.

    Having said that, is weird, imaginative, silly or pretend chat any more or less offensive than line after line of text with obscenities, people complaining about how much they hate some aspect of this game, talking about politics, shouting their 1/8 parties every twelve seconds for two hours, long /s conversations in another language, or any of the other nuisance chat?

    If it is not, which most will admit is the case, why single a particular group out? I've watched and listened to my 12 year old make silly sounds for 10 minutes, tap his feet, and other very annoying things, then when his little five year old brother starts quietly singing a song from the next room he becomes incensed. I, quite frankly, think this is the same thing, its just a bullying mentality on a group that's different, on someone that is not you or like you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RolandDebreton View Post
    Bruce, I appreciate you granting me the validity of opinion, I will do the same. A great many things that some find annoying others build filters in their minds for.

    Having said that, is weird, imaginative, silly or pretend chat any more or less offensive than line after line of text with obscenities, people complaining about how much they hate some aspect of this game, talking about politics, shouting their 1/8 parties every twelve seconds for two hours, long /s conversations in another language, or any of the other nuisance chat?

    If it is not, which most will admit is the case, why single a particular group out? I've watched and listened to my 12 year old make silly sounds for 10 minutes, tap his feet, and other very annoying things, then when his little five year old brother starts quietly singing a song from the next room he becomes incensed. I, quite frankly, think this is the same thing, its just a bullying mentality on a group that's different, on someone that is not you or like you.
    I haven't singled anyone out. In fact, in my post that you butchered I said that RP players are just like everyone else and should be held to the same standards. That includes "line after line of text with obscenities, people complaining about how much they hate some aspect of this game, talking about politics, shouting their 1/8 parties every twelve seconds for two hours, long /s conversations in another language, or any of the other nuisance chat"

    /shout /say spam is generally rude in any context. If you find openly talking politics rude or obnoxious. I think people have the same right and justification to feel that way regarding for open RP and /say and /shout spam. However, they would be doing exactly what you thought my intent was with my response that you must have not understood fully. I was expressing that sub-communities should be held by the same standards as everyone else. Also, you singling out many types of personalities does not translate well to the opinion you're trying to make as they don't make up an entire group of people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BruceyBruceyBangBang View Post
    /say spam is generally rude in any context.
    troll harder?
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