Fixing Player engagement DEV pls consider

[Ath192]

Because the OP wants to tie the medal to more tangible rewards. Human nature would make people not feel good if they're shown (or think) to be hindered from reaching their goal by someone else.

Maybe, but seeing as you get a chance every time you get an eligible roulette the loss isn't that great, and while people like to focus on the worst thing that can happen, I.E. the community breaks down and starts insulting each and blaming each other (Something that already happens still) I think, and am a bit confident, that the majority of people would be more willing to communicate, and put up a group effort so that everyone does well.

I think if we can put ourselves in that situation, lets say a Nier raid at the moment, and I really wanted that medal. If I see someone dying I'd let them know what the mechanics do, make sure to answer any questions they have and encourage other people to do great so we can get them. Overall increasing the social aspect and performance of the group as a whole, that is something uplifting. And I think the majority of people would behave this way. Rather than purely negative, which some few regrettably do, and they resort to blaming and accusation regardless of a reward or not.

Is the game we want to play really designed around and for those that won't be happy no matter what? That will find the negative in everything we do? I'd care to say no, That is what the disciplinary tools are there for, Vote kicking, GM reports, etc. Not the game and raid design... That should be guiding, encouraging and challenging us to do better.

[linayar]

I think, and am a bit confident, that the majority of people would be more willing to communicate, and put up a group effort so that everyone does well.

The existence of the duty finder would suggest that less communication is preferable.

[Ath192]

The existence of the duty finder would suggest that less communication is preferable.

I am of mind that the existence of the duty finder is a suggestion that people like convenience, not that they would not like to speak to anyone or interact with them. It defeats the purpose of playing an mmorpg to suggest that is what people are looking for, solitude. And for those folk the trust system has been an option since 5.0.

[ItMe]

I think if we can put ourselves in that situation, lets say a Nier raid at the moment, and I really wanted that medal.

If you wanted a medal, you'd overcap on them just doing the easy peasy dungeons doing your dailies.
Trying to get a medal in any specific content would work... if there's a tracker for what duties you have/haven't folded. But this medal system will really fumble if a gold from Sastasha has as much weight as one from e12s.

[Ath192]

If you wanted a medal, you'd overcap on them just doing the easy peasy dungeons doing your dailies.
Trying to get a medal in any specific content would work... if there's a tracker for what duties you have/haven't folded. But this medal system will really fumble if a gold from Sastasha has as much weight as one from e12s.

Yeah, I think in page 2 or 3 I mentioned it would be for level 80 activities mostly, when, presumably one is expect to have a decent grasp on their jobs. And grinding them is more than okay, they could have no cap at all. And once a person has gotten all the rewards they want, as long as they keep adding new ones they will always try to perform well in duties simply to snag one while they're at it.

You know how you can trade achievement points with Jonas in Gridania? and occasionally they add something in there? Something like that or the Faux Hollows currency. But with more expensive items and updated a bit more regularly since they barely put any attention to that one.

[LaylaTsarra]

I am of mind that the existence of the duty finder is a suggestion that people like convenience, not that they would not like to speak to anyone or interact with them. It defeats the purpose of playing an mmorpg to suggest that is what people are looking for, solitude. And for those folk the trust system has been an option since 5.0.

When do people speak to one another in DF other than say hello or ty for the party? You're joking right? Many time they say nothing at all.

[ItMe]

Yeah, I think in page 2 or 3 I mentioned

Lol sorry you've been having to repeat yourself so much.
It's been difficult following along in this thread.

When do people speak to one another in DF other than say hello or ty for the party? You're joking right? Many time they say nothing at all.

Lol yeah, I have a macro that says hi and that's about all the talking I do 95% of the time.

[Vahlnir]

When do people speak to one another in DF other than say hello or ty for the party? You're joking right? Many time they say nothing at all.

Unless everyone is social, I usually say "Hello" at the start and "Thanks all, gj" at the end. There are also times where half my party dies to a tank buster that another group's tank decided to drop on us and I say something like "Gotta love that tank buster. lol" like I did earlier. I was still the only one to say anything the entire time outside of the standard greetings at the start so I guess it was a little awkward. I guess it's my way of trying to de-escalate the tension.

[LaylaTsarra]

Unless everyone is social, I usually say "Hello" at the start and "Thanks all, gj" at the end. There are also times where half my party dies to a tank buster that another group's tank decided to drop on us and I say something like "Gotta love that tank buster. lol" like I did earlier. I was still the only one to say anything the entire time outside of the standard greetings at the start so I guess it was a little awkward. I guess it's my way of trying to de-escalate the tension.

Bet you're fun in a party. I have alts on Crystal maybe i'll catch up with you sometime although I do a lot of capping with hunt trains nowadays.

[Vahlnir]

Bet you're fun in a party. I have alts on Crystal maybe i'll catch up with you sometime although I do a lot of capping with hunt trains nowadays.

Never know! I run a few specific roulettes just about every day. To be honest though that is also how I tend to cap my tomestones anymore, hence not running as many roulettes as I used to. It's just too good.