Could we do without healing Potency?

[ASkellington]

Sure, except the game is designed with healers DPSing in mind and specifically tells healers that they should be DPSing whenever they aren't healing. Healers that don't DPS because "they play healers to heal" ultimately aren't playing the game the way its intended and quite frankly are being toxic if they're refusing to even try.

No, I agree with Dzian's stance. If I wanted to play a dps I'd play a dps not a healer. Does that mean I won't dps at all in a fight? absolutely not. What I want as a healer is not to fill my 90% down time doing dps with more dps buttons!!! I don't want more dps buttons. I want less down time.

I get it that SE for some Twelvesforsaken reason doesn't want to address this issue, and thus more dps buttons to press would "fix" said issue. My thing is, no. I don't want to settle. And I shouldn't have to either.

[LeonKeyh]

No, I agree with Dzian's stance. If I wanted to play a dps I'd play a dps not a healer. Does that mean I won't dps at all in a fight? absolutely not. What I want as a healer is not to fill my 90% down time doing dps with more dps buttons!!! I don't want more dps buttons. I want less down time.

I get it that SE for some Twelvesforsaken reason doesn't want to address this issue, and thus more dps buttons to press would "fix" said issue. My thing is, no. I don't want to settle. And I shouldn't have to either.

That's a fair request, but until that happens, the expectation is for healers to do DPS when they're not healing.

Calling that "down time" is subjective. Tank's job is to hold aggro on an enemy and use mitigation skills. It's not "downtime" when they have enough enmity and a mitigation buff is rolling, but there's nothing else for them to do within their role's unique responsibilities. They're expected to continue to DPS because DPS is ultimately a majority of everyone's role in a group in addition to other responsibilities depending on your role.

Healers aren't somehow exempt from that because of expectations from other games or because of personal expectations based off the name of the role. It only _seems_ like downtime because of the extremely simplistic game play surrounding that portion of the role.

[ASkellington]

That's a fair request, but until that happens, the expectation is for healers to do DPS when they're not healing.

Calling that "down time" is subjective. Tank's job is to hold aggro on an enemy and use mitigation skills. It's not "downtime" when they have enough enmity and a mitigation buff is rolling, but there's nothing else for them to do within their role's unique responsibilities. They're expected to continue to DPS because DPS is ultimately a majority of everyone's role in a group in addition to other responsibilities depending on your role.

Healers aren't somehow exempt from that because of expectations from other games or because of personal expectations based off the name of the role. It only _seems_ like downtime because of the extremely simplistic game play surrounding that portion of the role.

First off, I never said healers were exempt nor have I said healers weren't expected to do DPS.

My enjoyment of the healer role is balancing both dps and healing. What I am saying is the healing portion of fights need to be changed. Not the dps. What I am saying is that giving me an extra 2-5 dps buttons to press does not, will not, cannot fix my enjoyment of the role so no, no I don't want it. We can do 30% of our time dps. We can do 40%. Hells for all I care we can do 60%. 90% however, isn't fun at least for me and giving me more options is not how you fix it.

[Manuka]

... We can do 30% of our time dps. We can do 40%. Hells for all I care we can do 60%. 90% however, isn't fun at least for me and giving me more options is not how you fix it.

I hate to say it but the likelihood of them ever pushing that level of healing pressure outside of ultimates is almost zero. You have to keep in mind that the healers spending 90% of their time doing damage are usually skilled healers in equally skilled groups that have already memorized the mechanics and have their CDs planned out. If downtime was reduced to the point those selfsame healers are needing to spend +40% of their time on healer gcds, then your midcore and casual groups are just gonna get slapped around and bullied because downtime is designed to allow those groups to recover from mistakes in-between sets of mechanics. The more you reduce that window the more fights become a series of jump rope mechanics where everybody has to play optimally or wipe. And the dev team know this since the last time they tried to push content to that degree was back during Gordias and to a lesser extent Midas and anyone who was around then can tell you what an unmitigated disaster it was, as the raiding community more or less collapsed from it.

As it stands improving our dps kits is probably the easiest solution to downtime boredom, cause I really can't see them changing the content difficulty.