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    Player kpxmanifesto's Avatar
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    Are tanks currently too OP?

    We just had a dark knight solo the last boss of The Drowned City of Skalla from 70%. I'm happy for the dude that was able to pull it off, but is it just me or does that seem a little bs that a single player was able to solo the last boss of a dungeon from 70%?
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    It's not tanks being too OP.
    It's dungeons, and old content in general being extremely easy.

    There was a WAR in HW who even soloed the last boss of Mhach.

    So that's not surprising.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kpxmanifesto View Post
    We just had a dark knight solo the last boss of The Drowned City of Skalla from 70%. I'm happy for the dude that was able to pull it off, but is it just me or does that seem a little bs that a single player was able to solo the last boss of a dungeon from 70%?
    You can probably kill it as a healer, too.

    Being able to kill something without dying doesn't necessarily mean it's OP. What takes a tank 10 yrs to solo could have been cleaned up by a proper party a lot faster and everyone can be done with the duty and on to something else.
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    This isn't new. A tank in my FC managed to basically solo most of that fight back when Skalla was new. Just a matter of player skill vs content difficulty.
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    Dungeon bosses typically aren't that rough, damage wise. It's more about the mechanics. I've finished many-a-bosses solo on PLD, DNC, and SCH. The only difference being how long it took.

    Disclaimer: With the DNC the boss was about 50% "tenderized"
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    Player kpxmanifesto's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Esmoire View Post
    Being able to kill something without dying doesn't necessarily mean it's OP.
    You don't see an issue with someone soloing the last boss of a dungeon?
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    It helps that the boss in question has no real tank busters and almost all of their damage is avoidable AoEs.
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    Player kpxmanifesto's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by ItMe View Post
    It helps that the boss in question has no real tank busters and almost all of their damage is avoidable AoEs.
    True. After the healer died, the other DPS and I eventually died from unavoidable damage, but the tank never fell below 60%. He was never in danger at all from dying. I just never seen anything like that before in an MMO where tanks can solo stuff like that.
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    It's the same thing as the Demon Wall in The Great Gubal Library. I've had groups die when I've tanked, and it's nothing to do with the fact I am good or not, I just didn't F up like the healer and two dps did, so I finished it. Super slowly.
    I didn't enjoy it because of timeframe. Living to kill something is not OP at all considering the timeframe. The timeframe is the deterrence. If most dungeons could be solo'd as tanks most would still not do it because of that reason.

    In summary, it is not OP for anyone, tanks included, if they follow mechanics and kill a boss. Especially if the attacks outside of mechanics are so minute that the damage to health is negligible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kpxmanifesto View Post
    True. After the healer died, the other DPS and I eventually died from unavoidable damage, but the tank never fell below 60%. He was never in danger at all from dying. I just never seen anything like that before in an MMO where tanks can solo stuff like that.
    But if both DDs and the healer were dead by the time the boss was at 70%....a solo tank would do 70% of the boss's HP in the time that a full party could have dealt at least 210% of the boss's HP, which means it would have been faster to reset the fight, and on the run back to the boss room, tell the healer how not to die to whatever killed them.
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