Revelations from Patch 5.5 (Part 1)

[KizuyaKatogami]

Aren't the striking and scouting sets from Copied Factory a FFXIV rendition of 9S's outfit when worn by guys? I know the black's a little off, but coulda sworn that set was in the game already.

It’s a rendition but not the exact thing, but regarding that argument, the female copied factory set is 2b’s outfit. They still gave a 2b coffer despite that, so there’s really no reason they shouldn’t have given us a 9s outfit as well.(not to mention the 9s ones are of course, role locked as well.)

[Bright-Flower]

On the one hand I get the idea of 'they gave us 2B's feminine outfit they should give us 9S for balance.'

But on the other hand I can't help but also think it sounds like 'it wasn't enough we got one bonus glamour coffer beyond what alliance raids normally give us, we demand a second one.'

[KizuyaKatogami]

On the one hand I get the idea of 'they gave us 2B's feminine outfit they should give us 9S for balance.'

But on the other hand I can't help but also think it sounds like 'it wasn't enough we got one bonus glamour coffer beyond what alliance raids normally give us, we demand a second one.'

I mean with all of the cut things this expansion, it really isn’t so much to ask. Especially considering they literally have him wearing the set. How hard is it to put it in coffer form? If they had given more overall male outfits then fine but even the final raid it’s still female styled outfits.

[Bright-Flower]

I mean with all of the cut things this expansion, it really isn’t so much to ask. Especially considering they literally have him wearing the set. How hard is it to put it in coffer form? If they had given more overall male outfits then fine but even the final raid it’s still female styled outfits.

Even if that outfit was made the same way player outfits are, they'd still have to go through the work of fitting it onto every other player race model. It'd be nice to have sure, but the 2B outfit I see as already being an extra outside of the norm. And that's assuming his outfit WAS made as a player outfit and not just an npc model.

As for feminine outfits I can sort of seeing what you're talking about with the healing/caster sets but honestly the male versions of the 5.5 raid outfits don't feel overly 'female styled' to me.

https://i.redd.it/d8zeti9xg3t61.png

[KizuyaKatogami]

Even if that outfit was made the same way player outfits are, they'd still have to go through the work of fitting it onto every other player race model. It'd be nice to have sure, but the 2B outfit I see as already being an extra outside of the norm. And that's assuming his outfit WAS made as a player outfit and not just an npc model.

As for feminine outfits I can sort of seeing what you're talking about with the healing/caster sets but honestly the male versions of the 5.5 raid outfits don't feel overly 'female styled' to me.

https://i.redd.it/d8zeti9xg3t61.png

Just find it pretty unfair they put that time toward the 2b outfit which is geared for females but males get nothing again. This isn’t anything new either. I thought with Yoshi p saying he wants to start making glams more equal for both genders there’d be a change but the nier raid seemed to show that isn’t very true (not only the nier raid but also eden pieces as well.) Again i get nier is mainly dominated by female characters but geez. The few guy things they do have (adam and eve fight) and outfits they couldn’t even give us.

[Cilia]

YoRHa (Again)

I understand that a lot of people are unsatisfied with it - I am as well. Having not played any of Yoko Taro's previous works to completion (I got to Ending "A" on NieR: Automata, and it's the only one of his games I've played) I'm not terribly invested in the characters or concepts he's developed over the years. My interest is purely academic and driven entirely by my inquisitive nature. I really couldn't care less about the story or characters (I still haven't forgiven Anogg and Konogg for treating the PC as their gofer before Puppet's Bunker) and I agree part of the problem was the poor pacing (and to an extent the delay of Bunker, not that anyone could have done much about that), as well as limited screentime by virtue of being a side story, but I mean... there's limitations to doing that sort of thing...

Or maybe it's just because Bunker tempered my expectations moving forward in regards to how explicable and original this was gonna be. (Stirred up a mighty storm back then about how the plot twist regarding 2P showed a lack of integration... I couldn't have guessed how far it went, but suffice to say my expectations dropped to zero.)

Well, whatever. It is what it is; all we can do is run the weeklies from the Doomsaying Dwarf (P.S. most memorable NPC from the questline to me, because s/he's funny) and hope something comes of it, though again my expectations are at a rock bottom after the final tier offered little in the way of answers. Lots of interesting ideas, but the lack of emotional investment ultimately makes them fall flat.

[Erendis]

My only expectation for YorHa story after Puppet's Bunker was more disappointment but somehow it managed to be even worse...

WoL has no clue wth is going on and she did not even get to read Anoggs letter to Konogg for at least a bit of explanation...

And also, where the heck Konogg is supposed to find more information when even Vauthry with his airships did not find factory and alien ship in the open space (which in itself seems improbable...)

[Alleo]

My only expectation for YorHa story after Puppet's Bunker was more disappointment but somehow it managed to be even worse...

WoL has no clue wth is going on and she did not even get to read Anoggs letter to Konogg for at least a bit of explanation...

And also, where the heck Konogg is supposed to find more information when even Vauthry with his airships did not find factory and alien ship in the open space (which in itself seems improbable...)

Fully agree with that.

I wonder about that too. Not only was it still not really explained how something big as the factory was not even seen at all but there are barely any places left on the first...so of course all the information will somehow be found there.

[Vyrerus]

Directly from the Nier raid itself:

I know that's just 2B being 2B, but uhh... I mean. The raid did tell us directly that we shouldn't try to understand.

The Red Girl insults us later on saying things like, "Yes, of course you continue fighting. You can't resist your nature, after all."

Kinda make me think, what if an entire raid entered the raid, but then just didn't fight anything for the whole raid time limit. Probably nothing, but hey... Yoko Taro.

[Vyrerus]

About those points

And I honestly would still not care more for the raid. Having to give up your rewards (I guess you mean unique rewards otherwise it makes it even less harsh) feels just bad in a MMO where rewards are often the big carrots to continue playing. People would also just take the rewards and watch the cutscene on youtube.

It being reset is not something that makes much sense to me. So would you be 100% locked out of a whole raid forever or have to just unlock it again (which would be imo tedious)? The characters forgetting everything would make the raid imo even more useless because in the end it also changed nothing for the people on this world.

Having to do certain things to get an ending in a game including deleting your save file is logical in a game that you probably wont even play more after finally seeing the big ending.

Some spiffy old timer ramblin'

It really wouldn't be that bad. In FFXI, in order to see Luzaf's soul to its eternal rest, and free him from the shackles of the Dark Divinity, you had to repeat a once a week fight 13 times after your initial clear. Every week you had to give the reward selection the same answer, "Free Luzaf's Soul." Each week you were met with indifference by the Dark Divinity, but on the 14th week it finally relents. You swear away your own soul in place of Luzaf's, and are granted a unique title.

Compared to 3 and a half months of reward forfeiture, giving up one week would be nothing. It's already nothing for a lot of players who don't need the rewards from the tower. Redoing the raids would be no different than the reward scenario for the original Crystal Tower side quest involving Noah with the Oneiromantic(Dream Discovery) Pearls.