To those that say FF14 is not a big dog in MMO's

[linayar]

seem perfectly content to let any and all players leave because to heck with them. That is a dark road.

To be fair, saying that SE is fine with you unsubscribing when you no longer have anything you want to do in the game might be seen the same way.

I certainly don't think that's the case for SE, and probably not for Blizzard either as they also like to celebrate monthly active user count (whatever that means). I just think that SE knows what they can release and is not in denial over the fact that it doesn't work for everybody, so it's a "no hard feelings" deal with them if people quit.

But I don't know, I probably should not be so comfortable with attributing any specific intent to companies. They have their own perspective while us players have our own anecdotal experiences (with some echo chamber effect in certain communities).

That said, my own anecdotal experiences in each game are enough to inform me of how I should play regardless of any other players' viewpoint. Those experiences have made me quit WoW (several times and currently) while I kept on subscribing to FFXIV except for one occasion in mid 2020 where I had to create a new account and start over due to personal issues.

It is what it is and different players' experiences and decisions with respect to either or both games will vary.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

To be fair, saying that SE is fine with you unsubscribing when you no longer have anything you want to do in the game might be seen the same way.

I certainly don't think that's the case for SE, and probably not for Blizzard either as they also like to celebrate monthly active user count (whatever that means). I just think that SE knows what they can release and is not in denial over the fact that it doesn't work for everybody, so it's a "no hard feelings" deal with them if people quit.

But I don't know, I probably should not be so comfortable with attributing any specific intent to companies. They have their own perspective while us players have our own anecdotal experiences (with some echo chamber effect in certain communities).

That said, my own anecdotal experiences in each game are enough to inform me of how I should play regardless of any other players' viewpoint. Those experiences have made me quit WoW (several times and currently) while I kept on subscribing to FFXIV except for one occasion in mid 2020 where I had to create a new account and start over due to personal issues.

It is what it is and different players' experiences and decisions with respect to either or both games will vary.

Well in FFXIVs case, I think YoshiP himself has even said "You dont need to keep playing our game forever. Its actually good to take breaks. Go do other things, and play other games for a while, then you can come back and not burn yourself out, check out the new content and patches"

Thats a massive Paraphrase, but he's basically said that he supports, if not outright encourages cyclical players.