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    Quote Originally Posted by Arillyn View Post
    Nor should they be. A minor is a minor and under the law is a victim in sexual related crimes. It doesn't matter if the victim is a prostitute. He or she is a minor and more than likely in that instance is also a victim of trafficking. Adults know better and adults are the ones who use weasel words and phrases and what ifs to try and get out of trouble when they get caught doing something with a minor that is illegal.

    And while I get where you are trying to go with the non-neurotypical adult - that's still not going to fly if the non-neurotypical adult can handle day to day things for themselves and know right from wrong. (I have non-neurotypical family members - I know how this works.) Besides that, if the minor is a victim - I promise you it doesn't matter to that minor of the adult was a non-neurotypical adult or a neurotypical adult - the damage to the minor is the same.

    I'm sorry, these posts are now starting to make me angry so this will probably be my last one. They are making me angry because it's getting to the point of victim shaming.
    Thing is what I am saying goes beyond understanding right or wrong a person can understand the difference but if the engagement was built on a lie should the person who believed said lie really be solely responsible? We have the considerations for contracts which offer a level of forgiveness and without always having to go through a plethora of hoops to prove a certain degree of lack of capacity.

    If someone is found lying about the information before a contract is agreed upon I do believe that voids the contract. From a social aspect of someone engages with someone under the premise that someone is something else I do think across the board it should be taken into,consideration no matter the age. One does not have to have serve development defiences to believe what someone tells them. Now if someone engages after knowing the truth then that is a different ball game.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurhz View Post
    Sure that is a valid point, but it is moot because it is a false equivalence.

    The problem here is interacting with people that are minors.. No minor is ever going to report you, and nor would a case go anywhere unless you minor explicitly revealed their age to you.

    So let's look at a hypothetical situation. Minor lies about their age or doesn't reveal it and the venue is of 18+ then the probability; minor isn't going to report you, and if they do nothing would come of the situation, more than likely because there was no level of mutual understanding. Legally, you'd actually be protected under this premise to my limited understanding.

    Now if this hypothetical situation were to extend further, and the minor then later revealed their age to you, this is the moment that you would be under obligation to warn the person of their actions and the consequences therein, and then tell the child you cannot go further, alongside potentially cutting contact with them, and telling them you can no longer engage in online solicitation. The premise of your communication will have been formed on misinformation and deliberate. However, this would be the cut-off point in which an individual should understand their actions and that proceeding further is likely to get you in trouble for online solicitation with someone not of appropriate age. The basis with which your communication was formed probably won't matter, but further continuing that communication would matter. This is more than likely what you'd be judged upon.

    Jesus Christ. I'm not even sure how I should dignify it with a response, but again it goes back to the whole, you're part of a collective society thus you have as much responsibility as anyone else in the society to do your part, irrespective of what circumstance may otherwise dictate. If you qualify for certain circumstances, then you'll get them, which covers those that would otherwise need additional consideration. But irrespective of this you still should be tried accordingly, with the only differentiation being you're put into a mental institution as opposed to a prison. Everything else, you should be tried as an adult, because it correctly and accurately represents you as a member of a functioning society.

    It's impractical from a social construct perspective, but it is also a disservice to those around you, and a massive disservice to yourself; even if you may feel contrary to this -- because it doesn't accurately convey the gravity of their actions, consequentially speaking. As a child, I was ever a problem child, and regularly had meetings with a psychiatrist. -- The biggest and best wakeup call I had from her is when she told me my actions had consequences, and then further aided this point by telling me if my behavior were to continue into adulthood then anything I do, would be done as an adult, and thus tried as such.
    I have already mentioned that in terms of erp I am in agreement. Cause it is a game with an established age rating and that should be by In far a red flag for anymore. My stance was a product of people that mentioned the broader legal ramifications for outside the game when it comes to minors and adults interacting. My stance is all forms of context need to taken into a consideration and in terms of more complex interactions between lying minors and adults the burden is largely placed on the adult even if In their eyes and understanding the situation was between two consententing adults. By in large maybe they can get legal considerations but the social consideration are not very common. Damage is done that is why I say we need to look at everything to make it fair across the board.

    Hope that clears it up not best at exampling things as I said not the brightest bulb.
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