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    Enkidoh's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    The concept of Ifrit was likely something that people kept vague memories of post-Sundering (Perhaps through tales of its battle with Azem) which eventually led to it being venerated as a god not unlike the individual who first bested it.

    The Amal'jaa may have simply chosen to project some of their own qualities onto it, akin to how the Ixal reimagined Garuda as a winged goddess when the Fractal Continuum HM suggests she was originally just a commander in the Allagan army who held sway over their ancestors.
    Except the Brotherhood of Ash, the sole remaining untempered clan of amal'jaa have not been shown or stated to worship anything (only being interested in metalworking and fighting their tempered brethern), and regard Ifrit as an abomination undeserving of worship, which, if they are representative of amalj'aa society before Ifrit was first summoned, it suggests that it was entirelly the 'Paragon' (aka, an Ascian) that was behind how the Primal took form when he first taught the amal'jaa how to summon back before the Calamity (and, given what we now know about Ifrita, it's pretty clear now who the identity of said Paragon was.).

    Of course it doesn't prove conclusively that is the case, but it presents a pretty compelling case that it is so.
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    Last edited by Enkidoh; 03-29-2021 at 09:23 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rannie View Post
    Aaaaannnd now I just had a mental image of Lahabrea walking into a store called Bodies R Us and trying on different humans.... >.<

    Lahabrea: hn too tall... tooo short.... Juuuuuust right.
    Venat was right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enkidoh View Post
    Except the Brotherhood of Ash, the sole remaining untempered clan of amal'jaa have not been shown or stated to worship anything (only being interested in metalworking and fighting their tempered brethern), and regard Ifrit as an abomination undeserving of worship, which, if they are representative of amalj'aa society before Ifrit was first summoned, it suggests that it was entirelly the 'Paragon' (aka, an Ascian) that was behind how the Primal took form when he first taught the amal'jaa how to summon back before the Calamity (and, given what we now know about Ifrita, it's pretty clear now who the identity of said Paragon was.).

    Of course it doesn't prove conclusively that is the case, but it presents a pretty compelling case that it is so.
    I can't remember the exact wording for the Brotherhood of Ash's beliefs. Did they say that any version of Ifrit was a false abomination, or did they say that this version of Ifrit currently being worshipped by their tempered (and non-tempered but really impressionable) fellows was an abomination?

    Mainly I'm thinking about the Vundu, who still consider Bismarck their god, but (at least after some convincing from the WoL and co) see the Bismarck currently flying around eating islands as a false version that should be defeated. Same for the Ananta and Sri Lakshmi.
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