DPS who pull mobs

[Reinha]

You guys let dps run ahead of you?

[LaughingBanana]

Most of the time it's not a big deal but I always make a mental note that the players who do this are just arseholes.

And I wouldn't give them comms even if someone were to put a gun on my head to do it.

[Jijifli]

Im the opposite.
If Im suppose to be the tank, but the DPS decides they wanna be tank...Im taking off my stance and gonna let them have at it.
If they die...thats what happens when you decide your gonna overstep and take my job XD

First off, intentionally being bad at your role does not help you at all. Second of all...

You guys let dps run ahead of you?

If a dps is ahead of you enough to pull forward, you're going too slow, sorry not sorry. <3

[Tranquilmelody7]

Im the opposite.
If Im suppose to be the tank, but the DPS decides they wanna be tank...Im taking off my stance and gonna let them have at it.
If they die...thats what happens when you decide your gonna overstep and take my job XD

More power to you, play how you want to play

You can live like that but you're ultimately just encouraging/enabling bad behavior by just letting them do your job. If they wanna pull mobs so bad they can pick up a tank class themselves. XD

I'm a pragmatist - I'd rather not intentionally slow down a run to try and teach someone a lesson of sorts

I'm not sure if doing so would make an impact anyways, I don't know if many people feel that strongly one way or the other

[Alaray]

Im the opposite.
If Im suppose to be the tank, but the DPS decides they wanna be tank...Im taking off my stance and gonna let them have at it.
If they die...thats what happens when you decide your gonna overstep and take my job XD

It's not a big deal. At least, not as big of a deal as intentionally griefing for a petty grievance. I mean, I pull most of my dungeons on healer and all you'd really do by turning off stance is make me use a couple gcd's to live (which, more of a cut to dungeon mobs hitting for basically nothing while being made out of paper). It's not really the "Learned Your Lesson?" moment you think it is.

I never encountered a DPS pulling for me because there's usually nothing left to pull in the first place, ~but~ if a DPS who has access to Arm's Length does pull I mean proccing that slow is just bein a pal and I'll comm you for it B)

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

This is why wall pulls are sexy.

[LianaThorne]

I never encountered a DPS pulling for me because there's usually nothing left to pull in the first place, ~but~ if a DPS who has access to Arm's Length does pull I mean proccing that slow is just bein a pal and I'll comm you for it B)

Personally I don't see it in dungeons unless the tank is new/learning or going slow in general. It's also usually a DPS that has 1+ tanks maxed and I guess still wants to control the party. I can get wanting things to go quicker but at the end of the day, it should be up to the tank to control the flow. It's the same as pulling too much for a newbie healer. Like God forbid you get thrown into a party with a new tank and healer, with a DPS trying to play budget tank.

[Jeeqbit]

DPS usually can't run ahead of you if you use Sprint out of battles to travel to each mob pack and pull everything without stopping.

It's surprising though how many tanks subconsciously think Arms Length is only good for the knockback resistance. Personally I love the Slow debuff popping up from every mob, it reminds me of back then when Flash was still a thing. :3

It's surprising how many tanks only use Arm's Length for mitigation because that's the only mitigation people teach them about these days.

[Alaray]

Personally I don't see it in dungeons unless the tank is new/learning or going slow in general. It's also usually a DPS that has 1+ tanks maxed and I guess still wants to control the party. I can get wanting things to go quicker but at the end of the day, it should be up to the tank to control the flow. It's the same as pulling too much for a newbie healer. Like God forbid you get thrown into a party with a new tank and healer, with a DPS trying to play budget tank.

Ultimately, it's a video game. I was taught how to properly tank dungeons by a SCH who told me in Sirensong Sea during early StB to "pull everything, push a cool down, and if you die it's on me." I was definitely new, and in a team oriented game playing to learn what'll be expected of you in future teams is an important way to learn how to perform in a role. Since, frankly, any job in this game can tank single pulls. You don't learn anything doing that. Healers who are new, should learn how to heal a tank doing a big pull (and I mean, especially with WAR at endgame, you basically don't need to heal them if they know what they're doing). OGCDs + GCDs if required are often going to be plenty and, if you're spamming Benefic II until you're out of MP and the tank drops dead with all your other tools expended, odds are either they screwed up for lacking mitigation to help the healer spread out their tools, or the DPS aren't doing something correct.

Will you wipe? Yeah, when you learn things you usually make a dog's breakfast of it until you get it down. That's part of learning. If someone blows up for you for a mistake when learning, kick em. But someone blowing up for expecting perfection, or someone else refusing to cooperate with the team at the baseline expectation of play down the line, are both kick-worthy things.

[Baxcel]

I was taught how to properly tank dungeons by a SCH who told me in Sirensong Sea during early StB to "pull everything, push a cool down, and if you die it's on me."

You were taught wrong for general play.. you were taught what that healer wanted which is correct.. if your a tank ask your healer what they want.. if they say nothing or whatever pull however you feel..