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    SE try to always to counter the obvious theory, so a Zenos/Hydaelyn/Zodiark or a fusion between two or three seems to obvious.

    I think we will get an unknown boss who will pop-up at the end like in many FF games.

    It could be the Apocalypse creature itself, or why not a fusion of the Twelves summons like a test to see if the planet and his people deserve to continue to live or not (so it will be erase from the existence and time forever).
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    Quote Originally Posted by linayar View Post
    I wouldn't, not if it means Zenos getting Hydaelyn. That would be a letdown of an ending to the story that began with us hearing Hydaelyn's voice.

    As a certain someone once said:

    Well, (Zenos) cannot have (Hydaelyn)! (Her) dreams and ambitions, (her) body and soul--they are (the WoL's), do you hear me!? All (the WoL's).
    Meanwhile it'd be a letdown to me if he got Zodiark and we were stuck with her. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    Quote Originally Posted by Ceasaria View Post
    SE try to always to counter the obvious theory, so a Zenos/Hydaelyn/Zodiark or a fusion between two or three seems to obvious.

    I think we will get an unknown boss who will pop-up at the end like in many FF games.

    It could be the Apocalypse creature itself, or why not a fusion of the Twelves summons like a test to see if the planet and his people deserve to continue to live or not (so it will be erase from the existence and time forever).
    I still have a feeling that the Anima trial might be what's left of Zodiark's primal consciousness. Alternatively, his cell.

    As for the Twelve, they seem to be deities inspired by the Convocation rather than anything concrete. There's at least two instances now which seem to fit, one being Azem, the other being the overlap between Hades and some of Nald'thal's traits. But I wouldn't be surprised if some form of test arises. Nonetheless, my guess as to the actual end boss is that it'll be whatever was ultimately behind the Final Days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauront View Post
    Meanwhile it'd be a letdown to me if he got Zodiark and we were stuck with her. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
    It can't be a letdown if there was never any association. That's an unrealistic expectation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by linayar View Post
    It can't be a letdown if there was never any association. That's an unrealistic expectation.
    That's all a function of how bold they want to be. It's really up to me, and not you, whether I choose to be disappointed or let down by something. So I'll respectfully disagree on that point.

    I'm hoping we're rid of Hydaelyn by the end of 6.0.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauront View Post
    That's all a function of how bold they want to be.
    Exactly. It'll be a bold thing to do because that is not the expected route. There is no buildup or payoff there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by linayar View Post
    Exactly. It'll be a bold thing to do because that is not the expected route. There is no buildup or payoff there.
    I trust in the developers to be able to make something interesting out of it, especially since they are already throwing in some parallels between the WoL's form and the way Elidibus used to appear on the moon. In the end, there are hints of Vayne in Zenos, and thus the Venat/Vayne association if they wanted to capitalise on it. And I'd sooner trust in their ability than what gcbtw thinks they can do with such a reference. No offence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauront View Post
    I trust in the developers to be able to make something interesting out of it, especially since they are already throwing in some parallels between the WoL's form and the way Elidibus used to appear on the moon. In the end, there are hints of Vayne in Zenos, and thus the Venat/Vayne association if they wanted to capitalise on it. And I'd sooner trust in their ability than what gcbtw thinks they can do with such a reference. No offence.
    Well, you have Yoshida talking about the mood of the end of the story and why they chose paladin as the job theme to represent that.

    I think it'll be interesting either way, but the setup is still favoring the WoL be on the side of Hydaelyn or even neutral. It depends om what they actually mean by an end to the story.
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    Zodiark will probably be the final boss of the raid
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauront View Post
    Nonetheless, my guess as to the actual end boss is that it'll be whatever was ultimately behind the Final Days.
    I'd expect that to more be part of the Pandemonium Raid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by linayar View Post
    I wouldn't, not if it means Zenos getting Hydaelyn. That would be a letdown of an ending to the story that began with us hearing Hydaelyn's voice.

    As a certain someone once said:

    Well, (Zenos) cannot have (Hydaelyn)! (Her) dreams and ambitions, (her) body and soul--they are (the WoL's), do you hear me!? All (the WoL's).
    Why would it be a let down? If anything it’d have more payoff in the end with us being a part of Azem and finally getting to meet and draw upon Zodiark whereas Hydaelyn has been shady for awhile no and it wouldn’t be surprising for her to end up being evil and or taken over by zenos
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