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  1. #11
    Player Seraphor's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolven_Essence View Post
    Of course there is a reason to dislike it. I already mentioned one. Because level syncing taking away my abilities all the time annoys me.

    For another, I’m leveling so fast through the main story and class quests alone that they are all I do, and while the story is really good, the majority of the main story quests are ‘go here and talk to this person, then go there and talk to that person’. That’s a lot of talking. It would be good to break that up a little bit more often with action. Fates, levequests, non story dungeons, etc. Do that though and I level up faster still.

    I realize this is a non issue for the vast majority of people. But I am something of a weird guy. Greatly out leveling the main story stuff makes my brain itch.
    We can all relate to level sync disabling your skills and why that's annoying.
    But you're outlevelling the sync by 10 levels, just 10 levels, that's about 3-4 skills at most.

    By the time you're level 80, you'll be running old synced content on a daily basis and losing your skills when synced becomes a daily occurrence, and far more than just 3-4 skills at that. You just get used to it, it's just the format of this game, and it's there for a reason.
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    Considering the game level syncs you down for anything with even the slightest tiny whiff of difficulty about it - even the majority of solo quests that aren't simply "go from point A to click something at point B" - I'm not sure this is actually needed.

    Probably the easiest way to implement if they wanted to anyway? A checkbox somewhere that says "Always Level Sync to MSQ quest level?" That would sync you to that if not otherwised synced down.
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    C'erise Vanesse
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    If your issue is level-syncing, then your issue isn't that you're too overleveled - you just dislike level syncing. EVERYONE regardless of their level or place in the story experiences level sync unless doing at-level content. If you don't want to experience level-syncing, I'd recommend finding a group of friends to help you unsync content - you'd have access to your entire toolkit that way, and the only places you'd sync down to would be FATEs or Solo Duties.

    EDIT: I'd also like to add, if you weren't level-syncing and you were doing all content AT LEVEL, you'd still only have access to the limited toolkit of that level, without even the chance to touch and practice with the skills you have access to now.
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    Last edited by MilkieTea; 03-09-2021 at 02:00 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    No thanks. Housing is fine as it is

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    Lee Keramory
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    FFXIV isn't a game about leveling your level, it's about leveling your gear. You may think leveling take's too much time now, just wait until you're 80. Skill bloat/spam is just one of the arguable flaws in this game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolven_Essence View Post
    Of course there is a reason to dislike it. I already mentioned one. Because level syncing taking away my abilities all the time annoys me.

    For another, I’m leveling so fast through the main story and class quests alone that they are all I do, and while the story is really good, the majority of the main story quests are ‘go here and talk to this person, then go there and talk to that person’. That’s a lot of talking. It would be good to break that up a little bit more often with action. Fates, levequests, non story dungeons, etc. Do that though and I level up faster still.

    I realize this is a non issue for the vast majority of people. But I am something of a weird guy. Greatly out leveling the main story stuff makes my brain itch.
    Level sync is just a part of the game regardless if you're overleveled or not. Of course, once you get to max level, you can limit the amount of activity you do to not deal with level sync, but it's still there for max level characters.

    And just for the record, you can always do other stuff even if you're not behind on exp and can continue with the MSQ. That said, the reason to try to stick to the MSQ is because it's long, but only needs to be done once per character. If you venture out too much outside the MSQ, you can forget to continue with it and can get further behind.

    Either way, I hope it works out for you whatever method you choose to deal with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by linayar View Post
    Ok, but there is no negative that comes out of overleveling either, so there's no reason to dislike it.
    There are negatives to overleveling.

    When you're more than 5 levels above a creature, chances are good it's going to ignore you. If you're more than 10 levels above it, it will ignore you. That removes danger from the world at a time when those creatures should be aggressive and feel threatening. They also die much easier because they aren't designed with the higher level toolkits and power in mind, reducing the chance of them feel threatening even more.

    When you're more than 10 levels above a creature, your chocobo gains no XP from when you kill it so it ranks up much slower.

    There's no useful benefit to overleveling because MSQ controls content unlocks (other than 5 ARR dungeons) and zone unlocks once you get to HW content.

    There needs to be a way to disable the bonuses for those who want to be able to experience all the content at the intended level and not just the dungeons/trials. Those who want to faceroll the content can always do additional roulettes to get the extra levels for the power advantage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    There are negatives to overleveling.

    When you're more than 5 levels above a creature, chances are good it's going to ignore you. If you're more than 10 levels above it, it will ignore you. That removes danger from the world at a time when those creatures should be aggressive and feel threatening. They also die much easier because they aren't designed with the higher level toolkits and power in mind, reducing the chance of them feel threatening even more.

    When you're more than 10 levels above a creature, your chocobo gains no XP from when you kill it so it ranks up much slower.

    There's no useful benefit to overleveling because MSQ controls content unlocks (other than 5 ARR dungeons) and zone unlocks once you get to HW content.

    There needs to be a way to disable the bonuses for those who want to be able to experience all the content at the intended level and not just the dungeons/trials. Those who want to faceroll the content can always do additional roulettes to get the extra levels for the power advantage.
    Content becoming easier is just part of the game. Even synced content doesn't put you at the "intended" level, not with many players syncing to the maxed level.

    Chocobo leveling slower is not an issue because the open world is not too dangerous anyway outside of certain ARR zones early on or perhaps during big FATEs, which syncs you, so you can level your chocobo that way or wait until you're max level and fight max level enemies.

    Useful benefit to overleveling is to make things easier for your main or to speed up your alt leveling.
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    I'm glad that I started playing years ago. Leveling was an experience. It made me feel invested. I remember feeling so happy I was finally lvl 50 PLD and got to wear my attifact armour xD Now people hit 60>80 before they're even in Heavenswars and know **** all about the job they're playing.
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    I must admit I've also found a few issues with the enormous Xp I'm getting from preferred world status. Namely gear. As a returning player on a new account I bought the ARR story skip as I just didn't want to do it again. I was happy to start on PLD and level through dungeons until I get to heavensward which I'm looking forward to doing again.
    The problem is I'm leveling so fast I cant keep up with gear. Level synced roulette players rarely want to do full clears and after one dungeon run I'm already high enough to do the next, but haven't got the gear for it, especially as the tank.

    My solution was to make the most of the xp buff and level my crafting and gathering jobs so I can just make my own gear. Its working well to be fair but leveling too fast wasn't a problem I was expecting to be honest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blakemere View Post
    I must admit I've also found a few issues with the enormous Xp I'm getting from preferred world status. Namely gear. As a returning player on a new account I bought the ARR story skip as I just didn't want to do it again. I was happy to start on PLD and level through dungeons until I get to heavensward which I'm looking forward to doing again.
    The problem is I'm leveling so fast I cant keep up with gear. Level synced roulette players rarely want to do full clears and after one dungeon run I'm already high enough to do the next, but haven't got the gear for it, especially as the tank.

    My solution was to make the most of the xp buff and level my crafting and gathering jobs so I can just make my own gear. Its working well to be fair but leveling too fast wasn't a problem I was expecting to be honest.
    msq would've given you gear, you should also be doing your class quests, you should already be a paladin at level 53. you should've been a paladin at level 30.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    No thanks. Housing is fine as it is

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