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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ammokkx View Post
    in case anyone actually takes this seriously, let me tell you what gives it away that this is an alt of Titanman

    His first post was a necro on a hot topic.

    Every topic he creates about questions are all questions which have drama surrounding it.

    Despite being a newbie, the treasure island character has clearly bought a level 70 boost and used it on none of the starting classes- a level 70 boost that, might I add, titanman buys on every alt.

    Also, despite his innocent "uwu i'm a newbie plz help" characterisation now, earlier posts had him not quite having his character figured out yet. This doesn't read like the same "person" posing all these "questions."

    Also isn't it curious how beauty astrologian is bumping threads again when secret island is running out of momentum?
    To add to this, I'd like to point out a careless contradiction this alt made early on (in a thread started likely just begging to start drama) :

    Quote Originally Posted by SecretIsland View Post
    I've been playing this game for a while now,
    Also notable that a particular user frequently can't help but pop-in to threads created by this alt (there's a few alts, recent join date and how their jobs are 'unlocked' but not played are also giveaways). Said main account hasn't made an appearance in this particular thread, but is active and "responding" to another one of what I suspect to be a sock-puppet account thread right now (Observant people here probably know which thread I am referring to).

    Having said that, it's pretty clear that many people aren't aware of this ongoing... errr... "relationship," so these threads get a little traction before the alt moves on and brings back another hot-button topic. No harm, no foul for now, I suppose. But this whole farce is progressively becoming pathetic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cidel View Post
    To add to this, I'd like to point out a careless contradiction this alt made early on (in a thread started likely just begging to start drama) :



    Also notable that a particular user frequently can't help but pop-in to threads created by this alt (there's a few alts, recent join date and how their jobs are 'unlocked' but not played are also giveaways). Said main account hasn't made an appearance in this particular thread, but is active and "responding" to another one of what I suspect to be a sock-puppet account thread right now (Observant people here probably know which thread I am referring to).

    Having said that, it's pretty clear that many people aren't aware of this ongoing... errr... "relationship," so these threads get a little traction before the alt moves on and brings back another hot-button topic. No harm, no foul for now, I suppose. But this whole farce is progressively becoming pathetic.
    Another one to add to the ignore list? You guys are truly grasping at straws here. I'm MPK because MPK responds to my threads? Can you just pause for a moment and think about how farcial that argument is.

    Also, if villains, relics, PvP, Ultimates, how to make gil, etc. are all hot button topics then it seems like you trolls consider everything a hot button topic.
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    Last edited by SecretIsland; 03-08-2021 at 06:40 AM.

  3. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by SecretIsland View Post
    I'm MPK because MPK responds to my threads?
    How interesting... Never identified who, and yet you jumped to this conclusion...

    Oh, and being ignored by an alt is as pointless as two left shoes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SecretIsland View Post
    Another one to add to the ignore list? You guys are truly grasping at straws here. I'm MPK because MPK responds to my threads? Can you just pause for a moment and think about how farcial that argument is.

    Also, if villains, relics, PvP, Ultimates, how to make gil, etc. are all hot button topics then it seems like you trolls consider everything a hot button topic.
    The second thread you made was about forum trolls. Despite your very recent join history and that fact that you haven't played the game, you were already extremely interested in forum trolls. You don't have to be Sherlock Holmes to work this one out.
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    Last edited by Edax; 03-08-2021 at 07:21 AM.

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    BTW I can't read any of what you say because I blocked both of you. So you're talking to yourselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SecretIsland View Post
    BTW I can't read any of what you say because I blocked both of you. So you're talking to yourselves.
    You're only digging yourself deeper on the credibility front.
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    Even if this is an (alt of whichever troll here), they have been making topics that have been generating actual halfway decent conversations instead of flat out trolling. I would argue there have been many more "ignore this troll" responses than actual trolling attempts.
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  8. #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malmstrom View Post
    Even if this is an (alt of whichever troll here), they have been making topics that have been generating actual halfway decent conversations instead of flat out trolling. I would argue there have been many more "ignore this troll" responses than actual trolling attempts.
    The problem here is that one of the other alts posted a thread complaining about Zenos too a little while ago so this is effectively disingenuous spam. Yes it seems like a halfway decent conversation if you don't know the context.

    Quote Originally Posted by t0rn View Post
    He came back to life and is letting an Ascian wreak havoc across the world, all to provoke the WoL into another duel. His sole purpose in life is to duel his “friend.” Dumb.
    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...o-be-a-villain
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    Last edited by Edax; 03-08-2021 at 08:25 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edax View Post
    Not really. As badly written as Zod was Man of Steel, if he killed Superman, he would still terraform Earth and remake Krypton. Yes the world ends for humanity as Earth gets terraformed, but Zod has an end goal to achieve that is beyond "Kill Superman" because he wants to save his people. It would continue a plotline from Act 1 of that movie about the fate of Krypton.
    But if the story is about Superman, killing Superman would end the story. Whatever happens afterward would be a new story with a new protagonist. At best, you could have an epilogue showing what happens after the death of Superman. Similarly, if they wanted to, they could continue with Zenos's story after killing the WoL, but it would be a different story than what is presently being told about the WoL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by linayar View Post
    But if the story is about Superman, killing Superman would end the story. Whatever happens afterward would be a new story with a new protagonist. At best, you could have an epilogue showing what happens after the death of Superman. Similarly, if they wanted to, they could continue with Zenos's story after killing the WoL, but it would be a different story than what is presently being told about the WoL.
    The story isn't all about Superman though. Nearly all of Act 1 in Man of Steel takes place on Krypton and sets up Zod, Jor-El and the crisis they face. Apart from existing as a baby, Superman has no role to play in Act 1 and thus it's not really his story. If Superman died in Act 3, the story would still function because it's also Zod's story as well. Just as Superman did not need to play a role in Act 1, he would not necessarily need to play a role in Act 3 either. While Man of Steel is a poor writing example because it's extremely unclear just where the inciting incident of the movie is (along with many other problems), at the very least Zod is fleshed out enough that he can exist without the protagonist, since he already does that in the start of the movie.
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