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    Why is there so much drama on the forums here?

    I've been playing this game for a while now, and just found out about the forums. The ff14 subreddit is not to my taste. I can't find much good information about this game there, so I was curious about other options.

    I was casually browsing through the most active forum (General Discussion, apparently) today to get a sense of its culture and frankly, I'm flabbergasted. A thread on Mordion Gaol turned into a debate on cancel culture. There are numerous posts on botting (why??) for some weird reason. And people are just derailing the thread on how Vieras still don't have headgear. It just became a thread of people flinging passive aggressive insults for 16 pages. Meanwhile the thread about Ultimate (sounds like some hardcore content) is 50 (jesus christ) pages of people fighting. There is maybe one legitimate argument every 20 posts in that thread.

    Is this what the forums are usually like? Because if so I might just go back on the subreddit, as overflown with fanart as that sub is. At least it's relatively drama-free there.

    Edit: Can't reply to everyone unfortunately since there's apparently a 20-post limit? Thanks for the discussion and tips though!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SecretIsland View Post
    I've been playing this game for a while now, and just found out about the forums. The ff14 subreddit is not to my taste. I can't find much good information about this game there, so I was curious about other options.

    I was casually browsing through the most active forum (General Discussion, apparently) today to get a sense of its culture and frankly, I'm flabbergasted. A thread on Mordion Gaol turned into a debate on cancel culture. There are numerous posts on botting (why??) for some weird reason. And people are just derailing the thread on how Vieras still don't have headgear. It just became a thread of people flinging passive aggressive insults for 16 pages. Meanwhile the thread about Ultimate (sounds like some hardcore content) is 50 (jesus christ) pages of people fighting. There is maybe one legitimate argument every 20 posts in that thread.

    Is this what the forums are usually like? Because if so I might just go back on the subreddit, as overflown with fanart as that sub is.
    General Discussion is just that - General Discussion. If you're just seeking help might want to either stick to the subreddit OR stick to the help forums. Most of us here are killing time or letting off steam by getting into wordy fisticuffs with each other. At the end of the day there's no truly hard feelings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilkieTea View Post
    General Discussion is just that - General Discussion. If you're just seeking help might want to either stick to the subreddit OR stick to the help forums. Most of us here are killing time or letting off steam by getting into wordy fisticuffs with each other. At the end of the day there's no truly hard feelings.
    I'm actually not so sure, chief. The temperature in that Ultimate thread was rather high. It's curious because you don't see this kind of drama in the game (or at least I haven't played long enough to see it I guess). But damn me if every other thread here isn't like a landmine of drama.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SecretIsland View Post
    I'm actually not so sure, chief. The temperature in that Ultimate thread was rather high. It's curious because you don't see this kind of drama in the game (or at least I haven't played long enough to see it I guess). But damn me if every other thread here isn't like a landmine of drama.
    If you look through my history you'll notice I get into quite a bit of drama myself. Go to another thread however, and I'm complimenting the same person, we're talking about improvements that can be made, making concessions etc etc.

    There's a few notable trolls (MPK for example) but otherwise it's water under the bridge in the next thread, so long as it wasn't anything too serious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilkieTea View Post
    If you look through my history you'll notice I get into quite a bit of drama myself. Go to another thread however, and I'm complimenting the same person, we're talking about improvements that can be made, making concessions etc etc.

    There's a few notable trolls (MPK for example) but otherwise it's water under the bridge in the next thread, so long as it wasn't anything too serious.
    Cool. I suppose people are just animated in their debates. Still, it's very different from any game subreddit I've been in.
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    Welcome to gaming forums for mmos. They're usually like this and many are far far worse.

    Quote Originally Posted by SecretIsland View Post
    Cool. I suppose people are just animated in their debates. Still, it's very different from any game subreddit I've been in.
    Subreddits tend to be quite different due to how moderation in fan generated communities is often very unlike how it's done on official platforms. The ability to downvote also makes it easier for people to silently shoot down what is obviously a very stupid or offensive post, or a troll.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SecretIsland View Post
    It's curious because you don't see this kind of drama in the game (or at least I haven't played long enough to see it I guess).
    Because of how the punishment system works in game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SecretIsland View Post
    I'm actually not so sure, chief. The temperature in that Ultimate thread was rather high.
    I cannot speak for others but coming from WoW, a game which has abandoned everything for the sake of performance and high end content and treats casuals with disdain, I can see why many people would strongly defend their game from becoming like WoW due to certain constant high end push for more high end which often comes at the expense of casual content.

    Also it doesnt help that the person who made that thread is a blatant low quality troll that uses bad faith "high end vs casual" posts to get people fighting :P


    Edit: Though like someone else said, the state of the forum is far better than usual mmorpg official forums, if you go to the WoW forums rn they are way way waaaaay worse
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph2449 View Post
    I cannot speak for others but coming from WoW, a game which has abandoned everything for the sake of performance and high end content and treats casuals with disdain, I can see why many people would strongly defend their game from becoming like WoW due to certain constant high end push for more high end which often comes at the expense of casual content.

    Also it doesnt help that the person who made that thread is a blatant low quality troll that uses bad faith "high end vs casual" posts to get people fighting :P


    Edit: Though like someone else said, the state of the forum is far better than usual mmorpg official forums, if you go to the WoW forums rn they are way way waaaaay worse
    Noted. Thanks for the heads-up. Seems like that is a big topic around here though.
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    Waves at Treasure Island and wonders if the M (for Media) dropped off the end of the name?

    (Too obvious).
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