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  1. #201
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    ZedxKayn's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by IceBlueNinja View Post
    I think I proved enough it too that you and all you regens lovers do not play it right too cause you need game to auto heal for you because you cant do the task yourself^^
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    Now hopefully all the others who tend to read things not cleary and love to use their dry you do not know the kit right, yeah I can again say the same with yall and need game to auto heal for you with regens lmao.
    Large amount of copium in these posts

    Genuinely though, actually look up guides about AST and healing principles, it might come insightful.
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    Last edited by ZedxKayn; 03-01-2021 at 03:13 AM.
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  2. #202
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    Quote Originally Posted by IceBlueNinja View Post
    Since you do not ever seem to read carefully I dont have mp issues in noct stance period. I may do on dirunal but so what, matter of play style so me having no mp issues in noct since most of yall love to mention how it uses up more mp is me playing the class properly. You and these regen healers think yall so veteran but needs the game to auto heal for you aka regen and call yall selfs veteran healers hahaha ya. Who cares about friend, speak for yourself and not for others, some friend you are having said friend in a problem that do not even concern her/him wow.
    There is no "playstyle" in this game. Everything is incredibly rigid. You either play correctly or you don't. You having MP issues in Diurnal means you aren't playing it correctly. Allowing Regens to tick people up is veteran healing. You're getting value of your cast instead of pointlessly wasting GCDs. In takes a lot more thought to assess "will this Regen tick up the DPS from 50% in time for the next AoE?" then "ladeda spam AoE heals til everyone's max HP!!"
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  3. #203
    Player IceBlueNinja's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    That's a fair point. It's a shame Diurnal doesn't have CU, Star, CO or Celestial intersection.

    Btw you should probably take Noct Celestial intersection off your bars. It has a filthy Regen tied to it and you might get contaminated.
    Yes you may as well do so yourself it as a filthy shield on it and you may get poisoned , its a shame noct dont have the same thing cu,/star/co/celestial intersection.
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  4. #204
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    There is no "playstyle" in this game. Everything is incredibly rigid. You either play correctly or you don't. You having MP issues in Diurnal means you aren't playing it correctly. Allowing Regens to tick people up is veteran healing. You're getting value of your cast instead of pointlessly wasting GCDs. In takes a lot more thought to assess "will this Regen tick up the DPS from 50% in time for the next AoE?" then "ladeda spam AoE heals til everyone's max HP!!"
    You having issues playing noct means you arent playing it properly, I heal perfectly fine in noct said that like 10 times now, regens= game need to auto heal for you because you cant do it yourself. Me using gcds and not having not to expend much mp should not be a problem to you. lol anyone is gonna play what works for them? There is no playstyle in this game? what do you call a hybrid class that can do different from 2 other job and also has its own perks? Why am I saving up gcds for especially ones with decent cool down I use the entire kit at my disposal it works fine lol.
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  5. #205
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZedxKayn View Post
    Large amount of copium in these posts

    Genuinely though, actually look up guides about AST and healing principles, it might come insightful.
    I heal it perfectly fine and comfy in noct. but you can do your own advise for yourself. Copium yes everyone is doing it too not just me, like you and 4 others about dont know how to play ast just cause I dont play the stupid dirunal good but I do perfectly fine *my comfort* right. It would make more sense I say I cant play either stances cause both of them I do not understand LMAO. Regens game auto healing for you determines if someone good or bad lmao.
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    Sorry about the astro changes friend, hopefully you'll find another healer u like or end up liking the healer changes.

    I was also a big nocturnal sect fan, imo shield healing is easier so it's why I chose astro over whm when I healed dungeons, I hope they keep that move that gives u insta cast for a period of time cause it's been a helpful move for me when it comes to astro.

    The sage is gonna be my new healer though cause it's a shield healer and it looks cool, but ultimately that decision will be made once I've got to try out all the healers in 6.0, so best of luck to u pal in your future healing endeavors.
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  7. #207
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    Quote Originally Posted by IceBlueNinja View Post
    I heal it perfectly fine and comfy in noct. but you can do your own advise for yourself. Copium yes everyone is doing it too not just me, like you and 4 others about dont know how to play ast just cause I dont play the stupid dirunal good but I do perfectly fine *my comfort* right. It would make more sense I say I cant play either stances cause both of them I do not understand LMAO. Regens game auto healing for you determines if someone good or bad lmao.
    If you knew how to play AST, you'd manage on both sects because they virtually play the same, only the timing of some actions may vary.

    I don't know what's wrong with you, no one hates noct, we're just aware diurnal is numerically better and take full advantage of it in high-end content while you're just seething about regen for some reason.

    Also regen playing the game for us is genuinely one of the stupidest cope I've ever seen. I can't even comprehend how you can think like that. We're still casting the heal, it just happens slowly over time.

    You do know one of SCH's primary healing tool is a regen right? Also are all WHM inherently bad at the game? I hope you never touch Neutral Sect, you might have an allergic reaction.
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  8. #208
    Player IceBlueNinja's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZedxKayn View Post
    If you knew how to play AST, you'd manage on both sects because they virtually play the same, only the timing of some actions may vary.

    I don't know what's wrong with you, no one hates noct, we're just aware diurnal is numerically better and take full advantage of it in high-end content while you're just seething about regen for some reason.

    Also regen playing the game for us is genuinely one of the stupidest cope I've ever seen. I can't even comprehend how you can think like that. We're still casting the heal, it just happens slowly over time.

    You do know one of SCH's primary healing tool is a regen right? Also are all WHM inherently bad at the game? I hope you never touch Neutral Sect, you might have an allergic reaction.
    I dont know what wrong with you either regen is good but others like me prefer shielding again amma just say what you say to me back to you, I hope you dont ever touch have netrual sect either you may vomit from it ^^ . It is not stupid its fact regens is =auto heal game is healing for you, what you push a button to do each regen tic or something if its not auto mech? Oh my cool feature then if that is what it is . Both sects at 72+ are now able to do the job of the other noct or dirunal so neither at that point is better, now 71 and lower content sure maybe the regens better than if you wanna look at it that way. Again as you said your seething about shields for some reason if I am with regens and no one hates dirunal. Some of us eust rather shield heal over regen heal lol which they too got chew up for it as me such as mint honey (the person who made this post) and couple others. I dont care or like anything about SCH it is a sloppy stress mess healer that I do not know how it is even a job seem only alright for ARR content and nothing more, tried healing with it in hw sb shb dungeons once in a while and its just nope cant do it. Did I say any WHM is bad? I have nothing against whm because I started as it and love it myself, will play it sometimes if feeling up for a more different feel. and I always get happy if I get whm or ast as my co healer as long as its not a SCH where am forced that I cant use my noct stance. How would you or anyone feel if dirunal could not work with whm then? You dont sound like manage noct yourself then if your always more in dirunal as you say its the same with both sects. Either play similar but slightly difference. However again shields will win since it can let you survive a tb or accidental cleave from a tank and even block debuff after effects, while you with full hp and regens will just topple over.
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  9. #209
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    Quote Originally Posted by VictorTheed View Post
    Sorry about the astro changes friend, hopefully you'll find another healer u like or end up liking the healer changes.

    I was also a big nocturnal sect fan, imo shield healing is easier so it's why I chose astro over whm when I healed dungeons, I hope they keep that move that gives u insta cast for a period of time cause it's been a helpful move for me when it comes to astro.

    The sage is gonna be my new healer though cause it's a shield healer and it looks cool, but ultimately that decision will be made once I've got to try out all the healers in 6.0, so best of luck to u pal in your future healing endeavors.
    Yeah exactly we can always move to sage. Say if they have instant cast shield at least and even some type abilty that let us sling spells instantly or power up our spells, well hello upgraded better noct ast I will be more than happy to change x3. Hope the changes we seek and think is the result.
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  10. #210
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    Quote Originally Posted by IceBlueNinja View Post
    Might watch what you type about wink wink it sounds like harassment, who cares if ast and whm fight about heal I wont be playing either of them when sage come out so their problem if they wanna do that.
    After reading back through this thread's post twice just to be sure, I'm closely striding to the point where (my apologies beforehand..) I'm getting a strong inkling that you're either purely oblivious or simply trolling. I surely hope it's not the latter, because those experienced players were genuinely trying to dismiss many misconceptions/anecdotes with the given cold hard facts.
    Quote Originally Posted by IceBlueNinja View Post
    By rare when I say I play whm I never had no clipping issues of what you claim so lol
    I never said you are -actually- clipping anything (hint: potentially). But WHMs in fact, has one particular ability that actually benefits them to clip its use if it means to have them constantly on cooldown. So that reply does explain something from this discussion Heck, I even wonder if we're actually talking about the same 'clipping'...
    Quote Originally Posted by IceBlueNinja View Post
    Did I mention anything about mechs, also quite a sentiment you and the regen lovers have towards shield heals dont you think so?. Anything yall say about regens is the same as shielding. If yall see noct stance inferior to dirunal, maybe noct ones see dirunal inferior to dirunal, this is nothing but hypocrisy thing and throws off the fact that people need to respect and see how others feel. You and most may not like the noct stance and prefer dirunal it is the same concept to us noct ones. I am sure all you dirunal lovers will be doing the same or feeling the same exact treatment if dirunal was picked to be gotten rid of instead of noct then will do everything in your power to hope it does not go that way. Noct can still give 3 regens via noct intersection, netrual helios/aspected anyways so again how is noct so inferior lol.
    Look mate, we get it. You love Nocturnal Sect with passion. There's nothing wrong in that. Nobody says you are wrong to love Nocturnal. Nobody's 'hating' nocturnal like you have claimed nor implied so far in this thread. In fact some players (including myself) actually LOVES and don't mind to play nocturnal stance in some given time. Spreading misconceptions purely based by feeling while denying any form of opposing facts however, is the last thing these AST lovers wants to see---and frankly, it speaks a lot about yourself.

    I do hope you'll find solace in playing Sage in 6.0 like you've replied to somebody else earlier because I feel like it's a lost cause trying to explain further, especially after numerous attempts and hints from the others. Bless
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