How could you do this to AST?

[IceBlueNinja]

I think he proved more than one time he doesn't so the debate is useless.

I think I proved enough it too that you and all you regens lovers do not play it right too cause you need game to auto heal for you because you cant do the task yourself^^

[ZedxKayn]

I think I proved enough it too that you and all you regens lovers do not play it right too cause you need game to auto heal for you because you cant do the task yourself^^

Now hopefully all the others who tend to read things not cleary and love to use their dry you do not know the kit right, yeah I can again say the same with yall and need game to auto heal for you with regens lmao.

Large amount of copium in these posts

Genuinely though, actually look up guides about AST and healing principles, it might come insightful.

[IceBlueNinja]

Large amount of copium in these posts

Genuinely though, actually look up guides about AST and healing principles, it might come insightful.

I heal it perfectly fine and comfy in noct. but you can do your own advise for yourself. Copium yes everyone is doing it too not just me, like you and 4 others about dont know how to play ast just cause I dont play the stupid dirunal good but I do perfectly fine *my comfort* right. It would make more sense I say I cant play either stances cause both of them I do not understand LMAO. Regens game auto healing for you determines if someone good or bad lmao.

[ZedxKayn]

I heal it perfectly fine and comfy in noct. but you can do your own advise for yourself. Copium yes everyone is doing it too not just me, like you and 4 others about dont know how to play ast just cause I dont play the stupid dirunal good but I do perfectly fine *my comfort* right. It would make more sense I say I cant play either stances cause both of them I do not understand LMAO. Regens game auto healing for you determines if someone good or bad lmao.

If you knew how to play AST, you'd manage on both sects because they virtually play the same, only the timing of some actions may vary.

I don't know what's wrong with you, no one hates noct, we're just aware diurnal is numerically better and take full advantage of it in high-end content while you're just seething about regen for some reason.

Also regen playing the game for us is genuinely one of the stupidest cope I've ever seen. I can't even comprehend how you can think like that. We're still casting the heal, it just happens slowly over time.

You do know one of SCH's primary healing tool is a regen right? Also are all WHM inherently bad at the game? I hope you never touch Neutral Sect, you might have an allergic reaction.

[IceBlueNinja]

If you knew how to play AST, you'd manage on both sects because they virtually play the same, only the timing of some actions may vary.

I don't know what's wrong with you, no one hates noct, we're just aware diurnal is numerically better and take full advantage of it in high-end content while you're just seething about regen for some reason.

Also regen playing the game for us is genuinely one of the stupidest cope I've ever seen. I can't even comprehend how you can think like that. We're still casting the heal, it just happens slowly over time.

You do know one of SCH's primary healing tool is a regen right? Also are all WHM inherently bad at the game? I hope you never touch Neutral Sect, you might have an allergic reaction.

I dont know what wrong with you either regen is good but others like me prefer shielding again amma just say what you say to me back to you, I hope you dont ever touch have netrual sect either you may vomit from it ^^ . It is not stupid its fact regens is =auto heal game is healing for you, what you push a button to do each regen tic or something if its not auto mech? Oh my cool feature then if that is what it is . Both sects at 72+ are now able to do the job of the other noct or dirunal so neither at that point is better, now 71 and lower content sure maybe the regens better than if you wanna look at it that way. Again as you said your seething about shields for some reason if I am with regens and no one hates dirunal. Some of us eust rather shield heal over regen heal lol which they too got chew up for it as me such as mint honey (the person who made this post) and couple others. I dont care or like anything about SCH it is a sloppy stress mess healer that I do not know how it is even a job seem only alright for ARR content and nothing more, tried healing with it in hw sb shb dungeons once in a while and its just nope cant do it. Did I say any WHM is bad? I have nothing against whm because I started as it and love it myself, will play it sometimes if feeling up for a more different feel. and I always get happy if I get whm or ast as my co healer as long as its not a SCH where am forced that I cant use my noct stance. How would you or anyone feel if dirunal could not work with whm then? You dont sound like manage noct yourself then if your always more in dirunal as you say its the same with both sects. Either play similar but slightly difference. However again shields will win since it can let you survive a tb or accidental cleave from a tank and even block debuff after effects, while you with full hp and regens will just topple over.

[ZedxKayn]

It is not stupid its fact regens is =auto heal game is healing for you, what you push a button to do each regen tic or something if its not auto mech? Oh my cool feature then if that is what it is

It is stupid, there is an inherent regen both in and out of combat but that is not what our own HoTs are. It's not because they operate on server ticks that the game is doing it for us. The game isn't casting it for us, it's not planning the uses for us, it's really stupid to say that the game is "healing for us" and that we are bad for it.

Both sects at 72+ are now able to do the job of the other noct or dirunal so neither at that point is better

What? Are you talking about Neutral Sect? So much for claiming to know AST, that's a level 80 and only applies to GCDs on a 2mins cooldown.

Again as you said your seething about shields for some reason if I am with regens and no one hates dirunal.

I will repeat no one is mad about shield or Nocturnal, we're just aware that Diurnal is numerically better, unlike you who claim regen users are bad at the game, that we're on high horses, and is looking forward Diurnal players failing in 6.0 or something like this. You're mad as hell, don't even.

I dont care or like anything about SCH it is a sloppy stress mess healer that I do not know how it is even a job seem only alright for ARR content and nothing more, tried healing with it in hw sb shb dungeons once in a while and its just nope cant do it.

SCH rewards skills and planning more than any other healer, it's alright in all type of content. It's not because YOU can't use the job that it's sloppy or a mess.

1/2

[ZedxKayn]

Did I say any WHM is bad?

If using regen = bad at the game, then yes, you have, at the very least because of Asylum.

How would you or anyone feel if dirunal could not work with whm then? You dont sound like manage noct yourself then if your always more in dirunal as you say its the same with both sects.

I would be fine with it and still play AST, there is 0 difference in how Diurnal and Nocturnal are used in casual content and even in higher content it would change close to nothing on AST's gameplay. If you know how to play Noct, you know how to play Diurnal and vice-versa, but your posts and your claim to struggle keeping tanks alive on Diurnal shows that despite thinking you're healing "perfectly" on Noct, it might not be as perfect as you think it is, far from it.
Put me on Diurnal, put me on Nocturnal, I couldn't care less, it will have no influence on how I will use my kit at all.

However again shields will win since it can let you survive a tb or accidental cleave from a tank and even block debuff after effects, while you with full hp and regens will just topple over.

TBs and cleaves are not going to kill anyone in casual content without a previous lack of raw healing or them taking free damage, so that's not a good example of use of shields.
There is only two scenarios where using Nocturnal shields to prevent death is valid: early prog of current savage and ultimate content with crafted gear while still trying to figure out mitigation plans, or solo healing current experts, savages or ultimates. Period. Outside of these scenarios, a death will not be on a healer expected to shield, but either on a lack of raw healing, on the person(s) who died or whoever was in charge of mitigating.
I'm not sure what you mean with that last part though. It's not because it overheals a few people that it's a waste. In any healing situation, if say you use Diurnal CO to heal one or two person, they will get out of with more HP than if you had pre-emptively shielded them with Nocturnal CO because the healing potency of Diurnal is 700 while for Nocturnal its 200 + a negated 250, that's a difference of 250 potency between Diurnal and Nocturnal. That's as if the shield was applied twice and entirely consumed.

2/2

[IceBlueNinja]

It is stupid, there is an inherent regen both in and out of combat but that is not what our own HoTs are. It's not because they operate on server ticks that the game is doing it for us. The game isn't casting it for us, it's not planning the uses for us, it's really stupid to say that the game is "healing for us" and that we are bad for it.


What? Are you talking about Neutral Sect? So much for claiming to know AST, that's a level 80 and only applies to GCDs on a 2mins cooldown.


I will repeat no one is mad about shield or Nocturnal, we're just aware that Diurnal is numerically better, unlike you who claim regen users are bad at the game, that we're on high horses, and is looking forward Diurnal players failing in 6.0 or something like this. You're mad as hell, don't even.


SCH rewards skills and planning more than any other healer, it's alright in all type of content. It's not because YOU can't use the job that it's sloppy or a mess.

1/2

Dark knght living dead sch has no aether flow to lustrate or exco= dead dark night or overall difficult to manage big trash pulls. = whm= benediction or solace, ast = es or light speed benefic 2 sling and overall both is able to big pull with no problem. Indom a rather weak heal aoe that need aether flow and has a 35 second cd where as helios/medica does not and overall again most it heal is too heavy on that aether flow mech.. Unlike you some who claim noct users are bad at the game or dont know how to play ast , yes your on your high horse just like how yall glad noct is begin gone instead of dirunal in 6.0 ^^

[KDSilver]

I think I proved enough it too that you and all you regens lovers do not play it right too cause you need game to auto heal for you because you cant do the task yourself^^

I'm not a regen lover.
I prefer shielding.
My best healing experience is HW Scholar so far.

Facts, maths and logic are what they are, no matter what you like.

[IceBlueNinja]

I'm not a regen lover.
I prefer shielding.
My best healing experience is HW Scholar so far.

Facts, maths and logic are what they are, no matter what you like.

Hmm yeah and so is opinions whether people agree or not