How could you do this to AST?

[Absurdity]

I'm fairly new to AST; with it now being my main cuz I fell in love with it due to the card/buffing system and how stunning all the spells and abilities look. Specially compared to how lackluster/ordinary WHM and SCH abilities/spells look. Going back to your original post, you mentioned that you were going to have to switch because you needed a shield healer since your friend goes WHM; but I've always read/seen that Diurnal Sect should always be your go to choice when playing AST and that you should really only ever use Diurnal when playing with another AST. So you should still be able to play AST just fine.

The issue people have is that they simply wanted to keep playing Noct AST.

This hasn't really been about numbers because of course AST is still going to be viable when they remove Nocturnal Sect. Over those 30 pages in the thread it's been proven time and time again that mathematically Diurnal is just the superior AST sect, even with a WHM, as long as the fight doesn't literally force you to use shields on top of mitigation to survive.

People are simply disappointed that they now have to play Diurnal because it's the only thing available to them.

[Marxam]

The issue people have is that they simply wanted to keep playing Noct AST.

This hasn't really been about numbers because of course AST is still going to be viable when they remove Nocturnal Sect. Over those 30 pages in the thread it's been proven time and time again that mathematically Diurnal is just the superior AST sect, even with a WHM, as long as the fight doesn't literally force you to use shields on top of mitigation to survive.

People are simply disappointed that they now have to play Diurnal because it's the only thing available to them.

We don't know if they are removing Noct outright (though experience tells me they will just rename Celestial Intersection to Nocturnal Sect) so we will have to wait and see. Though I do hope they take this approach to the healers:

WHM = Pure Healer
SCH = Dual Healer emphasis on Barrier Heal (Eos = Regens, Selene = Barrier)
AST = Dual Healer emphasis on Pure Heal (Diurnal = Regen, Nocturnal = Barrier)
SAG = Barrier Healer

Probably wishful thinking since Yoshi's idea of "balance" is to make each job viable by giving them everything another job has outside of the their Job exclusive gimmick (i.e. cards, faeries, lilies) but even then they couldn't get some of those right. I'm still confused as to why Faeries are just for glamour now.

[Liam_Harper]

Though I do hope they take this approach to the healers:

WHM = Pure Healer
SCH = Dual Healer emphasis on Barrier Heal (Eos = Regens, Selene = Barrier)
AST = Dual Healer emphasis on Pure Heal (Diurnal = Regen, Nocturnal = Barrier)
SAG = Barrier Healer

What I'm expecting is something like this:

WHM = Pure healer with no mobility, no weave, no buffs and no shields.
AST = Pure healer with all the mobility, raid buffs and a shield or two.
SCH = Pure healer with bonus shields and a raid buff or two.
SAG = Pure healer with bonus shields, mitigation and a few shiny toys SCH doesn't get.

[Absurdity]

What I'm expecting is something like this:

WHM = Pure healer with no mobility, no weave, no buffs and no shields.
AST = Pure healer with all the mobility, raid buffs and a shield or two.
SCH = Pure healer with bonus shields and a raid buff or two.
SAG = Pure healer with bonus shields, mitigation and a few shiny toys SCH doesn't get.

Pretty much what it's most likely going to be.

[SweetPete]

As long as they make Selene relevant again. It’s so sad that they made her just a glamour. They really wanted to kill the meta so they completely destroyed and dismantled Astrologian, Scholar and Bard. As I guess those were jobs that were mandatory in the meta clan.

[IceBlueNinja]

totally agreed pete, i feel it for the bards, we ast and sch got hit bad but bard got brutalized. Respects to the bards who still plays it and hope yall get some love back I mean it.

[Recon1o6]

totally agreed pete, i feel it for the bards, we ast and sch got hit bad but bard got brutalized. Respects to the bards who still plays it and hope yall get some love back I mean it.

I would actually say that dark knight got brutalised the most. They got turned into discount warrior and just like us healers, they haven't been listened to either

Then ast/sch/bard got beaten down into the dirt

[MintnHoney]

I would actually say that dark knight got brutalised the most. They got turned into discount warrior and just like us healers, they haven't been listened to either

Then ast/sch/bard got beaten down into the dirt

I guess this is similar to what it would feel like if canned sardines maintained their awareness.
I wonder what the marinade in the can that is this next expansion's gonna be..?

[Mesarthim]

I would actually say that dark knight got brutalised the most. They got turned into discount warrior and just like us healers, they haven't been listened to either

Then ast/sch/bard got beaten down into the dirt

Which is why I took like 8-9 months off of the game (would've been more but, house is hostage once more). I played AST/some SCH in Stb, and DRK. The expansion was almost ruined for me if not for Viera (even though I swapped off due to no new hairs etc) and the story being good.

The job changes was the biggest gut punch to my enjoyment of the expansion. I'm not even healing right now anymore unless I absolutely have to (which I've gone weeks without). Sad since I used to be a healer main.

I'd also like to point out that every Heavensward job has been reworked at some point, be it good or bad. Just something I've noticed.