!! Fix Healer Rescue

[Doozer]

Report what exactly? Unless they're kind enough to clearly state in chat for the GMs that they were being malicious, not much anyone can do. It's not against the rules to just make a lot of "mistakes" with one of your abilities.

I don't know how to explain to you that you need to learn how to communicate with others like a normal person. Let me act out a scenario for you so you understand it better:

Healer: *Rescues you*
You: Can you please not do that? I find it to be disruptive and unnecessary.
[Later]
Healer: *Rescues you again*
You: I've asked you to stop. If you continue I'll report you for griefing/trolling.
Healer: *Rescues you a third time*

After this point, you would be justified in reporting them after the duty is complete. You're right, a person rescuing you with no other communication does not have enough evidence to report. Equally, it does not have enough evidence to prove they were actually trolling you. Maybe they were "incompetent", but trying to help you and failing is not an affront to you. A single person making a single mistake does not warrant completely changing a skill and the dynamic of PUG play. Unless it's way more widely used as trolling like you claim, in which case, take matters into your own hands. Set your boundaries, and if they don't respect them, report them. Did no one teach you this growing up?

For reference when you report them (because you'll do that if it really bothers you), this sort of behaviour would fall under "obstruction of play", because it's preventing you from playing like you normally would, since you say it disrupts your ability to perform skills and participate in the duty.

I'm giving you advice. This is not a debate. Learn how to handle when things that you don't like happen to you, instead of demanding the world around you be moulded to your liking. Taking action against people causing you grief is a much more realistic approach than the entire game being changed for a handful of people that are sensitive about someone interacting with them.

[Goji1639]

I don't know how to explain to you that you need to learn how to communicate with others like a normal person. Let me act out a scenario for you so you understand it better:

Healer: *Rescues you*
You: Can you please not do that? I find it to be disruptive and unnecessary.
[Later]
Healer: *Rescues you again*
You: I've asked you to stop. If you continue I'll report you for griefing/trolling.
Healer: *Rescues you a third time*

After this point, you would be justified in reporting them after the duty is complete. You're right, a person rescuing you with no other communication does not have enough evidence to report. Equally, it does not have enough evidence to prove they were actually trolling you. Maybe they were "incompetent", but trying to help you and failing is not an affront to you. A single person making a single mistake does not warrant completely changing a skill and the dynamic of PUG play. Unless it's way more widely used as trolling like you claim, in which case, take matters into your own hands. Set your boundaries, and if they don't respect them, report them. Did no one teach you this growing up?

For reference when you report them (because you'll do that if it really bothers you), this sort of behaviour would fall under "obstruction of play", because it's preventing you from playing like you normally would, since you say it disrupts your ability to perform skills and participate in the duty.

I'm giving you advice. This is not a debate. Learn how to handle when things that you don't like happen to you, instead of demanding the world around you be moulded to your liking. Taking action against people causing you grief is a much more realistic approach than the entire game being changed for a handful of people that are sensitive about someone interacting with them.

So, basically spend the whole run getting yanked around while politely asking them to stop, report them at the end, and then nothing happens because you still can't prove it was malicious. Hell, if I was the Healer I'd just say "Sorry I keep accidentally hitting that hotkey," in chat before the run ends. There you go, hard evidence it wasn't malicious.

Also, incompetent use of the ability is a more frequent thing and still annoying. There's zero reason not to address it.

I'm not sure why you're so against them adding something simple to address this problematic ability... Do you believe it would seriously set their development team back? Do you have reason to believe they're going to drag you into their offices and make you code it? Or are you just kinda pissy for no real reason?

[Doozer]

So, basically spend the whole run getting yanked around while politely asking them to stop, report them at the end, and then nothing happens because you still can't prove it was malicious. Hell, if I was the Healer I'd just say "Sorry I keep accidentally hitting that hotkey," in chat before the run ends. There you go, hard evidence it wasn't malicious.

You clearly don't understand what I'm saying, so I really don't know how else to give you advice on the matter. Literally just learn how to talk to people and express your boundaries. If people ignore that, even if they say, "oops I hit Rescue on you by accident 6 times lol" they can still get in trouble for it.

Or are you just kinda pissy for no real reason?

Nevermind, I see what the problem is. You perceive someone disagreeing with you as "pissy". Normally I don't jump the gun on something like this, but I feel like you need to see a therapist. You see party members as enemies, you think everyone is out to get you, and you assume everyone that sees things differently is angry. All of that combined seems like you have some serious issues you haven't addressed. There's really no need to take it out on others, especially when the person you're talking to is trying to give you advice. I'm trying to help you because I'm 99% certain they will never change Rescue, so I'm explaining an alternative that can help punish people who are griefing you. Though honestly now that I've seen how easily you snap at anyone that talks to you, I get the feeling this might've happened to you once and now you've got a vendetta against anyone that thinks Rescue is useful. Whatever army you're fighting in your head, you need to separate that from everyone you come in contact with. Sort your life out, mate.

[Goji1639]

You clearly don't understand what I'm saying, so I really don't know how else to give you advice on the matter. Literally just learn how to talk to people and express your boundaries. If people ignore that, even if they say, "oops I hit Rescue on you by accident 6 times lol" they can still get in trouble for it.

Nevermind, I see what the problem is. You perceive someone disagreeing with you as "pissy". Normally I don't jump the gun on something like this, but I feel like you need to see a therapist. You see party members as enemies, you think everyone is out to get you, and you assume everyone that sees things differently is angry. All of that combined seems like you have some serious issues you haven't addressed. There's really no need to take it out on others, especially when the person you're talking to is trying to give you advice. I'm trying to help you because I'm 99% certain they will never change Rescue, so I'm explaining an alternative that can help punish people who are griefing you. Though honestly now that I've seen how easily you snap at anyone that talks to you, I get the feeling this might've happened to you once and now you've got a vendetta against anyone that thinks Rescue is useful. Whatever army you're fighting in your head, you need to separate that from everyone you come in contact with. Sort your life out, mate.

They can get in trouble for it, but likely won't. If malicious intent isn't provable I'll just have to hope I get a GM that has some kind of axe to grind. It isn't a solution; it's just you being dismissive of the problem.

And all of this "you should see a therapist; you have serious issues man!" because I noticed how pissy you are is downright hilarious. I didn't realize I was dealing with such a delicate little princess. I'll try my absolute bestest to not hurt your feelings going forward.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

The amount of flavors we can choose in this world is incomprehensibly varied yet this thread chooses to be salty, or at least the last few pages are.

Not even sure why is this still going on...

[Doozer]

It isn't a solution; it's just you being dismissive of the problem.

And here's the finale of this thread. You're also dismissive of any solutions other than the one you're demanding. So there's really no point. You won't get what you want, and won't accept alternatives. So continue being mad at the world for being against you.

The amount of flavors we can choose in this world is incomprehensibly varied yet this thread chooses to be salty, or at least the last few pages are.

Not even sure why is this still going on...

I legitimately tried to help this guy by showing him he had other options besides hoping SE would change part of the game. Expressing his boundaries with others, reporting griefing, etc. but he's determined to be angry and I've exhausted all my options, so I guess I'll just let him continue to be angry. Though it's not like he's been posting in other threads lately, so perhaps we should just leave him to seethe in this one, alone.

[Goji1639]

And here's the finale of this thread. You're also dismissive of any solutions other than the one you're demanding. So there's really no point. You won't get what you want, and won't accept alternatives. So continue being mad at the world for being against you.

I legitimately tried to help this guy by showing him he had other options besides hoping SE would change part of the game. Expressing his boundaries with others, reporting griefing, etc. but he's determined to be angry and I've exhausted all my options, so I guess I'll just let him continue to be angry. Though it's not like he's been posting in other threads lately, so perhaps we should just leave him to seethe in this one, alone.

I've explained why it isn't a solution. Solutions solve problems; your suggestion was for me to politely converse with the person who's trolling and then report what happened to the GMs with zero proof of intent. I would hope you can grasp why that does nothing to solve the problem. I'm here proposing an actual solution, regardless of how likely it is to get implemented. There's never any harm in trying.

You've been the one getting upset and trying to make this personal.