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  1. #461
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurhz View Post
    Over 60,000 people have the Ozma mount according to Lalachievements, on the other hand, 1460 people have cleared Delubrum (Tracked via Cerberus mount), still new content so this isn't really anything to judge. which is fairly reliable to track since mounts are publicly available information regardless, but achievements for Ultimate on the other hand are in some cases are not publicly trackable so that's always going to be inaccurate, but going by this approx 9-11K holders per encounter. Likely a lot of player overlap, however.
    Lalachievements said 22k clears


    vs Ultimates which has 9-12k


    Even then ultimate are a ultimate level fight while the BA is an alliance raid level fight
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    Last edited by MPK; 02-16-2021 at 02:16 AM.

  2. #462
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    Quote Originally Posted by MPK View Post
    Lalachievements said 22k clears


    vs Ultimates which has 9-12k


    Even then ultimate are a ultimate level fight while the BA is an alliance raid level fight
    But the mounts show exactly how many people have completed it at least once, since you can't hide mounts. You can hide achievements.
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  3. #463
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    But the mounts show exactly how many people have completed it at least once, since you can't hide mounts. You can hide achievements.
    Oh man casuals love savage content huh



    Edit: I hope you guys realize that Ramuh is a DROP vs a GUARANTEED reward
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    Last edited by MPK; 02-16-2021 at 02:41 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MPK View Post
    Oh man casuals love savage content huh



    Edit: I hope you guys realize that Ramuh is a DROP vs a GUARANTEED reward
    You know what, I'm impressed how many people have ozma.

    You know, considering what it's locked behind.

    Also, did you know it's way easier to get your point across when you aren't throwing a tantrum?

    I do savage. I enjoy savage. I also enjoy most other aspects of the game. Maybe you should spend more time finding things you enjoy and less time thinking things will suck. A negative mindset only fuels more negativity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    Nothing wrong with Eureka. I'd do that willingly and have than have to run Void and Rab 36 times to satisfy those who didn't want to play the real relic content.
    Imagine trying to make this argument without realizing that the alternate for that step is FATEs in Othard & Gyr Abania. It's a one-time step (not one per relic) that has no Bozja option
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  6. #466
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    You know what, I'm impressed how many people have ozma.

    You know, considering what it's locked behind.

    Also, did you know it's way easier to get your point across when you aren't throwing a tantrum?

    I do savage. I enjoy savage. I also enjoy most other aspects of the game. Maybe you should spend more time finding things you enjoy and less time thinking things will suck. A negative mindset only fuels more negativity.
    I have learned that there no reasoning with this child. Last night was the last time I'm engaging with this troll because he a waste of time and energy. Let him and the other who stroke his ego complain and bitch because at the end of the day SE will never do anything they enjoy. Even if SE bends over and does everything this guy and others want they will always find something else to complain about. They want everyone to be a hardcore raider and not to be allowed to play the game casually way. If it was up to him the casual gamers would be ban from all games and not allow to enjoy anything. I'm just happy with the fact that I enjoy this game every day when I play while MPK lives in misery and have nothing better to do but complain that the game isn't tailor-made for his needs.
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  7. #467
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    Quote Originally Posted by SnowVix View Post
    Imagine trying to make this argument without realizing that the alternate for that step is FATEs in Othard & Gyr Abania. It's a one-time step (not one per relic) that has no Bozja option
    Assuming you have no alts you take through the content. It's not a one step option for some of us. Relic content should be done in zone like Eureka. They've actually made it easier to do some things out of zone which is ridiculous in my opinion. The lame stuff we got to do because some complained they didn't want to actually do the developed content and instead run the same old stuff we have for ages.

    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    You know what, I'm impressed how many people have ozma.
    You know, considering what it's locked behind.
    I am too and 8 of those belong to me. Close to 50,000 is pretty amazing especially considering discord was the only option for completing the content and there are many who would have given it shot if that wasn't their only option.
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    Last edited by LaylaTsarra; 02-16-2021 at 03:47 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MPK View Post
    Square promised us 2 ultimates per expansion. They never promised anything about a 48 man savage content.
    Promised as in stated to be released during the live letter. They promised both, but DR was for 5.4 and Ultimate was for 5.5. So DR and Savage has priority by virtue of having been planned to be released earlier.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mahoukenshi View Post
    I can't remember that anybody asked for 48 man savage either.
    Irrelevant. They don't only release content that people asked for. It's their game and they have their own plan for it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jirah View Post
    Imagine how vast SB would be if they didnt destroy resources by making Erueka?
    SB wouldn't be affected. If they didn't make Eureka, they just won't have Eureka, but SB would be the same without any additional areas.

    Quote Originally Posted by van_arn View Post
    Square should make the best game they can.
    Considering people have different idea of what is best, that is a meaningless statement to make. Every game company wants to make the best game they can, and many of them think they are.

    And are you comparing SE making DR (Savage) and delaying Ultimate to the problems of 1.0? Because I don't think they're comparable.

    And as for WoW, I think FFXIV has done a good job of copying many features from WoW. But in terms of specific contents, as a WoW player as well, I would rather current WoW take from FFXIV than the other way around, like dungeon and raid structure. Again, it goes back to everyone having different ideas of what is best.

    Quote Originally Posted by Starflake View Post
    It almost makes me physically ill to think off how two faced and "good" this community is. Blindly defending a company that just wishes to bank on you. Like kissing the ball that chains you.
    Why do you have to lie? I see people telling others they can unsubscribe from FFXIV if FFXIV isn't fulfilling their gaming needs and to find other games. That's not blindly defending FFXIV. That's saying FFXIV doesn't have to have your money if you're not satisfied because you only like a tiny portion of the game.

    The fact that I as a player who only plays this game to raid, really has to wait for over two years for a piece of actual challenging content and over three years for a new Deep Dungeon (I like to solo) is ridiculous.
    What's ridiculous about it? If you only like a tiny portion of an ongoing game, then of course you're going to have long wait times. Even people who may like more content still have to wait 3-4 months between each major patch. That's the nature of an ongoing game.

    So the solution is to find a game that provides enough of what you want or play multiple games.
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  9. #469
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    Quote Originally Posted by Y2K21 View Post
    If the minority vs. majority thing was true, I would be sure Hrothgar and Viera could be able to wear hats right now.

    "But SE said they would never wear hats!" sounds like pure laziness to me. Especially when we have seen Viera in other FF games wearing hats, and the new DR armor being now seen on Hrothgar.
    What does Viera wearing hats in other FF games have to do with XIV? What gives you the impression they are developed with the same dev. structure to begin with?
    They already explained why they cant INSIDE FFXIV. Im surprised ppl consider them lazy[just cause they dont get what they want]when they are in the constant developing expansions and post-patches at the same time.
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  10. #470
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    Quote Originally Posted by MPK View Post
    Lalachievements said 22k clears


    vs Ultimates which has 9-12k


    Even then ultimate are a ultimate level fight while the BA is an alliance raid level fight
    You don't make a very compelling argument considering the tedium of getting into BA in the first place. Besides, you can't attack people for preaching the availability of casual content like Bozja in general over Ultimates, whilst simultaneously trying to attack clear rates of Ozma vs Ramuh. All you do in this case is argue yourself into a corner, which in itself is an impressive feat, well done! There are some issues with BA in the first place, wherein you don't get the mount or achievement if you get sucked out of the platform, which is an inevitability if you die, so arguably, even more, have participated. But again, see italicized text.
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    Last edited by Kaurhz; 02-16-2021 at 08:18 AM.

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