Instead of cutting Ultimate from 5.5 why not cut bozja?

[van_arn]

Im not in here trying to start fights and bitching about thing not made for me. You can think Im toxic all you want I really dont care what a faceless internet person thinks of me. At least I enjoy FFXIV and not wishing it was Wow or any other mmorpg. If I dislike a game you know what I do? I stop playing it and move to another game. I hated WoW bc ppl there was toxic just like the OP so I came to FFXIV and never look back.

Square should make the best game they can. Their hubris after FFXI is exactly what caused 1.0, and ignoring the successes of other games will cause the same result in time.

If that means stealing good concepts from WOW, they should steal those good concepts from WOW. This is, and always has been, the secret to Square's success.

Even XI wouldn't exist if they didn't have Everquest as a model to work off of.

[MrJPtheAssassin]

Square should make the best game they can. Their hubris after FFXI is exactly what caused 1.0, and ignoring the successes of other games will cause the same result in time.

If that means stealing good concepts from WOW, they should steal those good concepts from WOW. This is, and always has been, the secret to Square's success.

Even XI wouldn't exist if they didn't have Everquest as a model to work off of.

That fine but if people want a game like wow they should play wow. Pretty much I have seen on here and other sites know the ff14 is known for its story more than anything and that it doesn't cater to the hardcore all the time. The delay of ultimate is a disappointment and I wish things were different but to me, they made the right choice because getting EW out in the fall is the better choice. The thing the OP and some others don't get this wasn't a choice between the 48 man savage, bozja, and the ultimate. It was a choice between delaying EW or ultimate and in the long run, I think getting an Expac out as soon as possible while dealing with a virus is more important to the game than the ultimate fight. Also, another reason I say what I said is that the OP acts like he in love with wow and hates FFXIV so that why I said why be here? so many others have told him he should just go play wow if he finds it more fun. Nothing wrong with that.

[Vahlnir]

That fine but if people want a game like wow they should play wow. Pretty much I have seen on here and other sites know the ff14 is known for its story more than anything and that it doesn't cater to the hardcore all the time. The delay of ultimate is a disappointment and I wish things were different but to me, they made the right choice because getting EW out in the fall is the better choice. The thing the OP and some others don't get this wasn't a choice between the 48 man savage, bozja, and the ultimate. It was a choice between delaying EW or ultimate and in the long run, I think getting an Expac out as soon as possible while dealing with a virus is more important to the game than the ultimate fight. Also, another reason I say what I said is that the OP acts like he in love with wow and hates FFXIV so that why I said why be here? so many others have told him he should just go play wow if he finds it more fun. Nothing wrong with that.

Just because WoW is a different game doesn't mean it's the "boogeyman". One can play both games and see the flaws in either of them, like I do. Currently on an extended hiatus from WoW, but I will return eventually as I always do. Fun fact, ARR was heavily influenced by WoW in its design. Very few MMOs that exist today paved their own way forward entirely. You have WoW partially to thank for that. You're welcome. Even WoW had to borrow ideas from what came before as well as their competition. FF XIV would be better served to borrow some more ideas from WoW, because some of what FF XIV doesn't work out very well. I think FF XIV suffers in some areas because they don't borrow enough.

[MrJPtheAssassin]

Just because WoW is a different game doesn't mean it's the "boogeyman". Fun fact, ARR was heavily influenced by WoW in its design. Very few MMOs that exist today paved their own way forward entirely. You have WoW to thank for that. You're welcome. Even WoW had to borrow ideas from what came before as well as their competition. FF XIV would be better served to borrow some more ideas from WoW, because some of what FF XIV doesn't work out very well.

I understand that but for a game to grow in its own it has to break away for wow unless you want FFXIV to be known as a "Wow clone"

[van_arn]

I understand that but for a game to grow in its own it has to break away for wow unless you want FFXIV to be known as a "Wow clone"

It is a wow clone, though. It's always been a wow clone since ARR. It will always be a wow clone.

It's a wow clone in the same way XI was an Everquest clone.

This is fine. Square puts their own spin on things.

I want more people to play FFXIV. If that means other games have great features we can use here, then we need them too. Especially if Square can implement them with their own spin.