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    Foresight for 5.5 - Character Death

    So in 2.55 there was character death and fakeouts.

    In 3.55 there was more and it was lasting.

    In 4.55 there were fakeout deaths with the Scions being called.

    So for 5.55?

    What do you think? Whether they be major like the Scions or minor, like City State leaders or generals or what have you... who do you think will die and more importantly, how?

    I think we're due for some death, in order to give our villains some impact. I think Fandaniel might get to kill somebody.

    I think Urianger and the Twins are off the table(Trailer voiceover and appearances). Everybody else is fair game. Will Catboi Sage Deluxe last?

    I guess it's all just guess work. Anyone got any patterns between the current cast and casts of old, whether big or small? Could we be set up to see another Wilred or some sort? Are any of the Scions giving off mad Papalymo vibes, in someway I don't see?

    Fire up those braincases!
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    I would assume that all NPCs that are currently presented in Trust System are sort of in a safe zone. Mainly because it will be weird to keep them there if they're dead, and removing some may cause "hey pardon me what did we level them for then" pushback.

    Lyse isn't in Trust system so... she may become the victim, plus 5.4 MSQ ending was kind of hinting its possibility. Same goes for Krile who also isn't playable though I can't find any reason for her to die yet.
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    I foresee that no one will die. We haven't had an actual main character death since Heavensward, only tons of fake!deaths.
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    Only one i could maybe see die would be Thancred since his "role" so to speak is more or less over ( for now anyway ) with Minfilia gone and Ryne not needing him around 24/7 anymore.

    But overall i don't think any of the scions are gonna die, yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Halivel View Post
    I would assume that all NPCs that are currently presented in Trust System are sort of in a safe zone. Mainly because it will be weird to keep them there if they're dead, and removing some may cause "hey pardon me what did we level them for then" pushback.

    Lyse isn't in Trust system so... she may become the victim, plus 5.4 MSQ ending was kind of hinting its possibility. Same goes for Krile who also isn't playable though I can't find any reason for her to die yet.
    Hmm. A solid rationale. I don't see the Trust system as preventative to this though, because on first use they happen with the chronology of events in the game. So going back and doing a dungeon would allow you to use the Trusts of even dead characters, because of the same logic used for why things like doing the Culnarian questline have the Sultana in them, even if you do them between 2.55 and 3.0
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    I'm expecting a fake death, as usual. Beyond that its difficult to speculate
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    Quote Originally Posted by Halivel View Post
    I would assume that all NPCs that are currently presented in Trust System are sort of in a safe zone. Mainly because it will be weird to keep them there if they're dead, and removing some may cause "hey pardon me what did we level them for then" pushback.

    Lyse isn't in Trust system so... she may become the victim, plus 5.4 MSQ ending was kind of hinting its possibility. Same goes for Krile who also isn't playable though I can't find any reason for her to die yet.
    They did just give us another DPS. Trust npcs came and went with the story, so it's not a for sure thing. Also, dungeons are sort of timecapsuled to when they come out. If you, say, kill Urianger he's still up for shb dungeons. Just no longer available for anything beyond.

    I think any character currently in the dps slot isn't safe.

    Quote Originally Posted by Recon1o6 View Post
    I'm expecting a fake death, as usual. Beyond that its difficult to speculate
    Also this. Death is meaningless in 14.
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    for something that happen to the twin in FF4, i dont think it will be happy ending for those in FF14
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    Quote Originally Posted by LisSquid View Post
    They did just give us another DPS. Trust npcs came and went with the story, so it's not a for sure thing. Also, dungeons are sort of timecapsuled to when they come out. If you, say, kill Urianger he's still up for shb dungeons. Just no longer available for anything beyond.

    I think any character currently in the dps slot isn't safe.



    Also this. Death is meaningless in 14.


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    Honestly, with the story arc coming to a close I'm half-expecting we're the ones who are going to try/do a heroic sacrifice stunt to save the world, only to be spared by the grace of Hydaelyn or some other super-powered entity.

    I do think it would be interesting to see how everyone reacts if they thought we were the ones who were right and proper dead for once.
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