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  1. #181
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    LisSquid's Avatar
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    We already have more gender "specialized" gear than not. Also I'm begging people to stop parroting gender essentialism for survivals sake. We didn't start seeing gender roles until agriculture started to see primitive industrialization (thus shifting the workload unevenly, and the credit of valued labor).

    I'd like to see earrings, boots, hats, and gloves be unlocked at the least.
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  2. #182
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    Penthea's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by LisSquid View Post
    We already have more gender "specialized" gear than not. Also I'm begging people to stop parroting gender essentialism for survivals sake.
    That argument is even more silly when all we're talking about is cosmetic appearances that have literally zero effect on combat performance. If these people truly believe in the whole "we need gender roles to survive" and think a game should reflect this, then I wonder why they aren't making threads complaining about how women in this game's story are permitted to do battle instead of being forced to stay home and take care of children and old people.
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  3. #183
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    you know whats cool?

    that we play a japanse game. a country the gives nothing about those western problems.

    twitter made a whole western generation gaga
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  4. #184
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    Quote Originally Posted by Schwarzstahl View Post
    you know whats cool?

    that we play a japanse game. a country the gives nothing about those western problems.

    twitter made a whole western generation gaga
    Pretty sure women like suits and men like dresses in Japan, too, but go off queen.
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  5. #185
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    Quote Originally Posted by Schwarzstahl View Post
    you know whats cool?

    that we play a japanse game. a country the gives nothing about those western problems.

    twitter made a whole western generation gaga
    Not the reason a lot here want to see the gender restrictions removed, if someone wants to wear something that looks good they should be allowed to do so.

    And even then i'm certain that japanese media have a wide variety of outfits for their characters, some of which doesn't follow the "norm".
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  6. #186
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    ZedxKayn's Avatar
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    Capybara Friend
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    Quote Originally Posted by Schwarzstahl View Post
    you know whats cool?

    that we play a japanse game. a country the gives nothing about those western problems.

    twitter made a whole western generation gaga
    A country that also produces a shitton more male characters in feminine clothing than any other one, what is your point?
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    im baby

  7. #187
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    Quote Originally Posted by Schwarzstahl View Post
    you know whats cool?

    that we play a japanse game. a country the gives nothing about those western problems.

    twitter made a whole western generation gaga
    "I can't read japanese therefore it must be like in the anime I watch and they've never heard of feminism"
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  8. #188
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    Elja Djt-dvre
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    Quote Originally Posted by Schwarzstahl View Post
    you know whats cool?

    that we play a japanse game. a country the gives nothing about those western problems.

    twitter made a whole western generation gaga
    Yeah and that's why several prefectures applied same sex partnership system in 2019-2020 and others plan to do it as well in future. Or that's why several schools stopped separating school form for girls and boys and both can wear both pants and skirts since 2020. Or that's why companies start removing requirement to write your sex in resumes. Or that's why people are mad about Mori's last remarks on women "talking too much" to the point of demanding his impeachment (and it's not the first case people aren't happy about high status people spitting sexist things). Because people don't care.

    Where people get this "Japanese society is apolitical and they don't care about such things" idea from? Just because they aren't as loud in expressing their anger as some activists in the West - doesn't mean the don't care. They aren't emotionless viewless aliens. These issues aren't "western".
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    Last edited by Halivel; 02-10-2021 at 01:51 AM.

  9. #189
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    Quote Originally Posted by Halivel View Post
    Yeah and that's why several prefectures applied same sex partnership system in 2019-2020 and others plan to do it as well in future. Or that's why several schools stopped separating school form for girls and boys and both can wear both pants and skirts since 2020. Or that's why companies start removing requirement to write your sex in resumes. Or that's why people are mad about Mori's last remarks on women "talking too much" to the point of demanding his impeachment (and it's not the first case people aren't happy about high status people spitting sexist things). Because people don't care.

    Where people get this "Japanese society is apolitical and they don't care about such things" idea from? Just because they aren't as loud in expressing their anger as some activists in the West - doesn't mean the don't care. They aren't emotionless viewless aliens. These issues aren't "western".
    Lot of people live in a fantasy world where Japan is the new Nuclear Family dreamland. I have NO IDEA where this comes from, but it's not the first time I've seen it. Probably stems from the very racist "submissive asian gf" stereotype. Or part of it.


    Anyway unleash the glams.
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  10. #190
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Halivel View Post
    Where people get this "Japanese society is apolitical and they don't care about such things" idea from? Just because they aren't as loud in expressing their anger as some activists in the West - doesn't mean the don't care. They aren't emotionless viewless aliens. These issues aren't "western".
    I feel like at least part of it is that the issue gets so politicised that people see it as a direct product of politics.
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