Bozjan 5.45 - My opinion

[Jokerz_93]

First of all, I want to say that what is going to follow is my impression and my thouthgs regarding new patch and the "new" Bozjan content.
I want to quote one of the best senteces I've ever heard in videogames: "Did I ever tell you what the definition of insanity is? Insanity is doing the exact... same fcking thing over and over and over again..."
This sounds like Bozjan, like Eureka, like every grinds.


I cannot understand why some ppl are "happy" grindin FATEs and CE like robots; personally i think I've done not more than 100 FATEs since I started play FFXIV, included the Bozjan's ones. I really find hard how can be "enjoyable" a content that must be repeated again again and again in order to get some stuffs which are barely usefull.
Emerald EX drop iLV 515. Crypto weapons are 520/530.
So, what's the point ppl have to do this "new" Bozjan? To kill theiselves. it's seems.

I tried when it was released in 5.3 (?) and at the start it sounded a good content -for the first few weeks. Then it turned in a dead piece of nothin'...and I prefered to do other things...like working.
I would much better prefered something with the old trials extremes instead of this "korean grind".

Yoshi, what are you doing?
I dont expect nothin more from SE, a company that seems is going to ruin every game other has started (Sagakuchi, dont blame Yoshi pls), but Yoshi why? Why?

You was able to restore a dead game many years ago and you did a wonderfull job. I know there are many who think the same thing :"Why everytime something that has the chance to be a good content has to be turned in a braindead, unusefull, fking s**t?"
I dont know how is going in the East , nor in the America (I think it's the same...) but here in EU ppl have to wake up at 7.00 to go to work. They come back at 19.00 at home and i think they are not happy to hear that the new patch has introduced nothin more than a grindin content not worth at all...

I'm really disapointed. For me I've to wait the 6.0, at this point, to see what new you and your team are capable to do...really disapointed and I'm not going to spend a single second inside Bozjan. I'll watch video on Youtube to know what happens here. I suggest to every ppl who dont like this system of grinds to the same thing. Let we die this dead battlefield and leave it to who can find enjoyble. (hope they are very few)

P.s. For who are ejoying this "grind system": i really envy you, who can enjoy with so less fun, or maybe, find fun in something so less enjoyable. Is this the future of MMO? No-sense grind?

[Arkhon-Infaustus]

I'm quite disappointed with many things SE did over the time (some jobs, tanking, housing, grinding, ...), and I may be wrong but could it be because Yoshida is currently working on FFXVI ?
I mean, FFXIV is "acquired", besides the game runs the same way for a long time now (same content pattern on each extension). But FFXVI has major issues to face for SE, so I was wondering if this could be linked. Maybe Yoshida is mainly on FFXVI and let FFXIV make its way in automatic pilot...

Anyway I wait for the 6.0 announcements with many expectations, but I guess it will be the same pattern as always, in which case I could leave.

As for Bozja, I suppose japanese servers love this kind of grinding content (I remember reading something like this, saying that they liked Eureka for example, am I wrong ?), but yeah, farming Fates wasn't really fun, 15 runs in Syrcus was boring and I give up for the 36 raids 60-70.

Every content isn't made for everyone, but nowadays there's not really much content that isn't just grind... Guess SE needs to keep the players busy as they continue paying their subscription !

[spf1200]

We don't need another thread about this . Just post in one of the many other threads people have made

[Starflake]

The showcase in a few days is the final chance for me. If not convinced I am quitting the game. I have done around 15 runs of the new 24man instance and I have gotten only a few fragments. No hair, no mount. 1 music scroll. That's around 20 hours of gameplay for fuck all, really. It takes ages to fully complete it. I was interested in the savage version, but it's 48 man. Good luck not having an incredibly frustrating experience clearing this. You can be as organised as you want, it's still savage difficulty, which means prog. Prog with 47 other people, which won't be the same people each time around. Nah, I've pretty much had it with this game.

Instead of making actual good content with good rewards, SE decided to make content in such a way where the grind is huge just to they can fill up some blank space from now until 6.0. That's all it is. Zero creativity. Just easy fix after easy fix and I'm not here for it anymore. If I get the impression that in 6.0 it's just going to be another copy paste of previous expansions, I'm not going to bother anymore. I've spent enough time on this game.

[Clover_Blake]

This content is designed for people who like grinding, and the savage version for people who love extra difficulty. If you don't like this king of content, it's because you aren't the target for it.

And yes, there is a target. Over the years I've seen tons of people complaining that this game isn't grindy enough, or that the content is done too fast, and demanded things they could spend a lot of time and effort doing. Don't ask me why, I'm not the target either. I'm fine with it because I recognize that SE is releasing content for different kinds of targets, so it's all good.

[Gemina]

It definitely seems like Bozja is for players with a certain mentality. If there are players who do enjoy the content, let them. If it's not for you, then do what I do and stay the hell out of it. It is like you said, you would rather farm Emerald EX because you have found that to be a more worthwhile expenditure of your time, so do that. There is no reason to force yourself to do content you don't enjoy because it is new.

[SweetPete]

I really tried to like Bozja but, for the life of me I just can’t. I did enjoy Eureka to some extent. I got 3 weapons from there.

I hate to lose out on this relic and this will be the very first relic I’m passing on since I am a vet who played in 1.0 before it was reborn and I’m totally okay with that.

I still enjoy the game as there is lots of other things to do. I’m not upset at SE. This just wasn’t the content for me so I’m passing on it. No big deal.

Tomorrow is the major announcement so I’m hoping for geomancer new job. That will completely just have me on cloud nine until 6.0 drops lol. Don’t care if it’s healer or dps. Just want geomancer as a job. I can’t wait.

[RokkuEkkusu]

I cannot understand why some ppl are "happy" grindin FATEs and CE like robots; personally i think I've done not more than 100 FATEs since I started play FFXIV, included the Bozjan's ones. I really find hard how can be "enjoyable" a content that must be repeated again again and again in order to get some stuffs which are barely usefull.
Emerald EX drop iLV 515. Crypto weapons are 520/530.
So, what's the point ppl have to do this "new" Bozjan? To kill theiselves. it's seems.

For Emerald EX, not everyone is capable in doing it. Heck, take it from someone who has 99 Emerald Totems doing it with random pugs. I've seen a person with NORMAL QUALITY i480 weapon, and needless to say that person kept on getting knocked out and the team couldn't win, so I had to clear it with others for hours on end.

And the i520 is weekly gated, but can be shortened for those who do Savage. Savage can be a mixed bag for those who are not as fortunate to get a static and/or have bad luck with pugs.

At the end of the day, it boils down to how people play the Bozja content and make use of the Lost Actions/Essences.

[Dogempire]

This content is designed for people who like grinding, and the savage version for people who love extra difficulty. If you don't like this king of content, it's because you aren't the target for it.

And yes, there is a target. Over the years I've seen tons of people complaining that this game isn't grindy enough, or that the content is done too fast, and demanded things they could spend a lot of time and effort doing. Don't ask me why, I'm not the target either. I'm fine with it because I recognize that SE is releasing content for different kinds of targets, so it's all good.

That just sounds like an excuse for lazy, recycled content. just because it's designed for people who like grinding doesn't mean they get a pass to implement it poorly and then make 0 changes to it

[TaleraRistain]

It definitely seems like Bozja is for players with a certain mentality. If there are players who do enjoy the content, let them. If it's not for you, then do what I do and stay the hell out of it. It is like you said, you would rather farm Emerald EX because you have found that to be a more worthwhile expenditure of your time, so do that. There is no reason to force yourself to do content you don't enjoy because it is new.

Problem is they tied the relic to it again. So rather than making content for those players and improving it in the ways that those players have suggested so it doesn't die out, they just try to force others who aren't remotely interested in that content into it to briefly make it active again. There's been a lot of feedback on how to make Bozja more viable from those specific types of players who have been engaging with it and SE has just completely ignored that.