Bozja is extremely disappointing (especially the 5.45 update)

[Infindox]

THAT. Is a good point and something I never considered! I was so surprised by how few drops I got in Bozja... out of curiosity, did they do anything similar to that for the Eureka weapons? (I've not done them, though I started Eureka just recently). Like, where they gave you two different ways to upgrade the Eureka weapon but the easiest way was the stuff outside Eureka?

Eureka was 100% inside Eureka. That's why some people didn't like it, becuase you couldn't do your normal activities and work towards it (kinda like the anima).

[ItMe]

[...] out of curiosity, did they do anything similar to that for the Eureka weapons? (I've not done them, though I started Eureka just recently). Like, where they gave you two different ways to upgrade the Eureka weapon but the easiest way was the stuff outside Eureka?

No.
In Stormblood it was Eureka or bust.

[Youkulm]

Eureka was 100% inside Eureka. That's why some people didn't like it, becuase you couldn't do your normal activities and work towards it (kinda like the anima).

Can confirm. I am one of those people. That is why I hated Eureka and why I wont step foot into Bozja. i500 shiny weapons are good enough for me.

[TaleraRistain]

Since you're tired of fates what would you want to do instead. Genuine curiosity because sometimes the players can come up with better ideas than the devs

A couple of the things I mentioned. Daily missions that provide a way to progress in rank. Benefits from completing the challenge log. "Kill 10 things and get me 10 bear asses" type quests that are repeatable and give mettle. Hell, I would even take WoW-style faction grinding. I'm not afraid of grind at all. I'm the type of person who gets to 99 on all characters with all best weapons and all best equipment and all side quests completed in FF games. Grind is my middle name. I just want something where progress may be small but consistent and on my own terms. Let the quest updates/faction updates happen from Skirmishes too, for those who do enjoy doing those. Then you could solo, small group, or full group and everyone could progress.

Also make any instances associated with the questline doable with Trust NPCs or groups, your choice, to alleviate the idea that the instance is going to have a limited shelf life. And don't wait for the next expansion to do this.

I have nothing against grouping. I often do it. I hate when it's my only option. I hate when I can't log in that night and progress on my own because I'm tired and just want to chill and not be "on" like I have to do in a group. I will avoid the content rather than have the choice made for me. That's why I quit hardcore raiding after EverQuest and don't do anything past 24 mans or the random Extreme here. Every night I logged in was either raiding or getting things to key for raid zones or getting drops for this or that other thing. My time was never my choice if I wanted to have any sense of progression.

I've actually started tooling around on a new character with the EverQuest II sub I still have kept after 17 years (in case I wanted to go back and I do go poke around sometimes) because the new supposedly casual content here makes me feel like I need a second job for it and there's nothing else to do and I can make small and steady progress with my warlock in EQII with all the solo questlines. I'll eventually hit a content ceiling where it segues into grouping and raiding, but it works for now. My mantra is that when it stops being fun, I stop doing it. Keeps me from burning out. So I've stopped XIV for now. My sub is active until December.

[SohkyonAyhan]

Lmao I had better decide which Eureka weapon I want to grind up then, cos it looks like I'm in it for the long haul. Thanks y'all~

[Gojin]

yep after this and viera not being able to wear the new bozja helmets I think Im done, gonna see what they annouce friday if its nothing about viera hats Im done. I did bozja today it was horrible then its either do more bozja or CT raids 15 times for relic NOPE

[kaynide]

I wonder if they'd ever add more interesting loot options from both Bozja and Eureka. The glamour drops in Eureka are a great start (like Scorp harness), but it'd be nice to see something akin to what we get from Treasure Maps (crafting parts being the most profitable/interesting).

I personally got the 2nd part of Bozja and just haven't touched it. Eureka is similar in that I got to the ice-zone and, while it was more interesting than the first, it was just a chore to me.

I would love to go in there for an hour or two and get something that makes it feel worth the time, with NO connection to the relic gear at all.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

yep after this and viera not being able to wear the new bozja helmets I think Im done, gonna see what they annouce friday if its nothing about viera hats Im done. I did bozja today it was horrible then its either do more bozja or CT raids 15 times for relic NOPE

Your gonna quit the whole game over Viera hats?

[Lauront]

Design choices and implementation aside, the one thing I did like about Bozja was the duels. Especially Sartauvoir.

[NorthernLadMSP]

Finished the new 24-person instance, and it's literally the most un-fun thing I've ever participated in during my 7 years playing this game. I will never be setting foot inside again.