Bozja is extremely disappointing (especially the 5.45 update)

[Goldfolk]

We did the new dungeon today and it took an inordinate length of time. I am not a good player and merely wanted to do it to get the new Relic weapon. I seem to have to do it a second time to continue one of the quests which I am not looking forward to. The Raid is more at Savage Level than for the ordinary player. I am 68 years old and a bit sad that every difficult dungeon is about running around like a scalded cat and I just don't have those reflexes especially as my generation were not born with a controller in our hands. I am also concerned that having been told that the loathsome memories drop in critical engagements have done four and not seen one yet. I did an Alliance Raid and got one there but this just encourages bad behaviour as people will do an Alliance Raid Roulette and leave if not teh right one.

[SohkyonAyhan]

I did an Alliance Raid and got one there but this just encourages bad behaviour as people will do an Alliance Raid Roulette and leave if not teh right one.

I wonder how much of an impact memory farming will have on Alliance Raids overall--on the one hand, there is already a problem with people dropping out of the longer alliance raids (did an Ivalice raid recently where a healer and two dps dropped as soon as they saw which it was). On the other hand, now people have a reason to specifically queue for something other than the CT raids, which means Alliance Roulettes will hopefully have a bit more of variety, and it'll be easier to pop queue for the Mhach and Ivalice raids.

[ItMe]

On the other hand, now people have a reason to specifically queue for something other than the CT raids, which means Alliance Roulettes will hopefully have a bit more of variety, and it'll be easier to pop queue for the Mhach and Ivalice raids.

Oh man, that's gonna be such a wonderful boon.
Maybe I won't start shunning the Alliance Roulette as hard lol

I wonder if there are alternate ways they could do/could have done to have the relic weapons still tied to the Bozja story but not make you go through the Bozjan Front. Cos I really do like how it's part of the lore of Bozja.

You know... I've been thinking about that.
Outside of SQEX making two stories (one for people who did Bozja and one for those who didn't), I think the only other thing they could have done is have the main camp be on Gangos and not the front line itself.
That way wether you're gathering memories on the front line or from Heavensward fates, both groups can report back there. The story would need a little adjusting, but so much takes place at the camp anyway.
I think the main thing they'd have to change would be to add Castrum to the duty finder instead of having it be accessed through Bozja.

[SohkyonAyhan]

You know... I've been thinking about that.
Outside of SQEX making two stories (one for people who did Bozja and one for those who didn't), I think the only other thing they could have done is have the main camp be on Gangos and not the front line itself.
That way wether you're gathering memories on the front line or from Heavensward fates, both groups can report back there. The story would need a little adjusting, but so much takes place at the camp anyway.
I think the main thing they'd have to change would be to add Castrum to the duty finder instead of having it be accessed through Bozja.

I like the idea of having it be a more central hub, yeah. I feel like there might need to be two separate stories though, cos if that isn't there as an incentive to do the Bozjan Front stuff proper, it might feel like a dull grind to nothing. (Well, I did the Bozja stuff for the story, but maybe not as many people who enjoy Bozja care? Idk.)

Castrum in Duty Finder is a good idea! I can understand why they'd want it to be something special you work up to that only happens once in a while, but that also does contribute to the problem of no one doing it after a while. Maybe you need to get to rank 10 or whatever to do it, and then it just unlocks in the Duty Finder. Then if you queue up into an alliance roulette it could be added as one of the ones you randomly get? I feel like it would need a little ironing out but it could work.

[ItMe]

I like the idea of having it be a more central hub, yeah. I feel like there might need to be two separate stories though, cos if that isn't there as an incentive to do the Bozjan Front stuff proper, it might feel like a dull grind to nothing. (Well, I did the Bozja stuff for the story, but maybe not as many people who enjoy Bozja care? Idk.)

That's very true.
I was thinking from the angle of "how could people that did Fate grinding still enjoy the Bozja story" because
A.) Then at least they'd get a story instead of just doing Fates, getting a relic, and leaving.
B.) Then you can show both parties the lore that the weapons are so tied to.

But you're totally right.
And having a second story would def get me to try both routes too~
Logistically though... I can see why they didn't : (

Castrum in Duty Finder is a good idea! I can understand why they'd want it to be something special you work up to that only happens once in a while, but that also does contribute to the problem of no one doing it after a while. Maybe you need to get to rank 10 or whatever to do it, and then it just unlocks in the Duty Finder. Then if you queue up into an alliance roulette it could be added as one of the ones you randomly get? I feel like it would need a little ironing out but it could work.

Yeah. The Baldesion Arsenal was only accessible through Eureka, and it feels like as they were making Bozja into Eureka 2 they just kinda copied that part too.
Maybe that means they're happy with it?
Or that they've got ideas about where they wanna push that concept next?
IDK, we'll have to see.
Personally, I dig it being in Bozja, but I can understand why it doesn't agree with everyone.