Bozja is extremely disappointing (especially the 5.45 update)

[Theodric]

When it comes to the EU and NA community, the main obstacles standing in the way of feedback seem to be a combination of the language barrier, the lack of visibility/engagement from our community representatives and a laser focus on Twitter and Reddit which are well known to be echo chambers that downvote/stifle discussion about the game.

[Steviejd]

When it comes to the EU and NA community, the main obstacles standing in the way of feedback seem to be a combination of the language barrier, the lack of visibility/engagement from our community representatives and a laser focus on Twitter and Reddit which are well known to be echo chambers that downvote/stifle discussion about the game.

When the community posts threads such as "Is Lyse ugly?" then I see why they might not listen to all of western players demands... They do listen, but they also do their own thing as any development team does.

[Theodric]

When the community posts threads such as "Is Lyse ugly?" then I see why they might not listen to all of western players demands... They do listen, but they also do their own thing as any development team does.

There's far worse things posted on Twitter though and for the most part, discussion here is generally a lot more constructive.

[Steviejd]

There's far worse things posted on Twitter though and for the most part, discussion here is generally a lot more constructive.

The only reason why it's not worse here is because it's moderated to some degree. Discussion is not much more constructive and it's difficult to find any positive threads and posts. Just because somewhere else is worse doesn't make it ok to have threads like "Is Lyse ugly?" on this forum.

[Theodric]

The only reason why it's not worse here is because it's moderated to some degree. Discussion is not much more constructive and it's difficult to find any positive threads and posts. Just because somewhere else is worse doesn't make it ok to have threads like "Is Lyse ugly?" on this forum.

Eh, it's mostly harmless and easily ignored though. Meanwhile on Twitter people get harassed and threatened for liking the 'wrong' characters or having the 'wrong' opinions.

[Lauront]

When the community posts threads such as "Is Lyse ugly?" then I see why they might not listen to all of western players demands... They do listen, but they also do their own thing as any development team does.

What do you think the noise:sound ratio is like on Reddit or Twitter by comparison? In the end, it is their forum, one which they moderate this way, although I find the example you cite to be a rather odd one. Hardly the most egregious of content. His point is they'd get better quality feedback if they acted so as to clean up their own forum and actually engaged with the community here more.

Reddit in particular is a joke with its downvote system and how easily it's abused. They can't control Reddit or Twitter but they can do so here.

[Steviejd]

What do you think the noise:sound ratio is like on Reddit or Twitter by comparison? In the end, it is their forum, one which they moderate this way, although I find the example you cite to be a rather odd one. Hardly the most egregious of content. His point is they'd get better quality feedback if they acted so as to clean up their own forum and actually engaged with the community here more.

Reddit in particular is a joke with its downvote system and how easily it's abused. They can't control Reddit or Twitter but they can do so here.

So you think a sexist thread is hardly egregious? I thought this was a decent community, seems things have changed as this game has gotten more popular. Why would they want to engage with a community that calls them arrogant or having a big ego?



Edit: Actually never mind I'm done. I shouldn't have returned to this forum and certainly shouldn't have posted anything.

[Lauront]

So you think a sexist thread is hardly egregious? I thought this was a decent community, seems things have changed as this game has gotten more popular. Why would they want to engage with a community that calls them arrogant or having a big ego?

Yes, I think it's hardly egregious in the grand scheme of things. I can very easily point to worse on either of Reddit or Twitter. If a little bit of humour in poor taste is an excuse for SE not to engage with its own fanbase, they need to grow thicker skin and also get their moderation staff to do a better job if it bothers them. I'd also say it's dubious to call it "sexist" per se.

Any developer hiding from their fanbase because of some rotten elements in it is going to lose sight of otherwise valuable feedback. Especially if they begin only consulting echo chambers, and particularly ones that can bury dissenting opinions through downvote systems, which are not reflective of community opinion at large but just the sensitivities of anyone reading a thread at any given time.