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    ItMe's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xoto View Post
    If you haven't been paying attention to the market board then that's on you. It is happening on every server and SE still hasn't done anything about it.
    The market doesn't change because the bots are still around.
    None of us can see 100% of the picture.
    All I know is I was finally able to finish my room in my FC's house because almost everything was under 80k, even that new dragon statue item.
    What items are you finding that are being aggressively monopolized?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ItMe View Post
    None of us can see 100% of the picture.
    All I know is I was finally able to finish my room in my FC's house because almost everything was under 80k, even that new dragon statue item.
    What items are you finding that are being aggressively monopolized?
    in every instance where the bot puts an item up if there are no other items up there, the typical pricing for exarchic gear is about 500k. so bot A goes up at 500,000 gil. Bot B will place at 499,999 gil. I will let you determine how long that takes to drop to a reasonable price range without actual players another scenario is someone has something up with 5 materia, lets say for 700k. does a bot list for 500? nope, 699,999 gil. so not seeing any player benefit there.

    as for competition returning... this is just for me anyway, if I leave the market... I dont check the market. chances are good that any "competition" returning, is going to use a bot so, bottom line is, you lose the real crafters who actually play.

    the ONLY people the botters wish to benefit are themselves. plain and simple. they dont give a lala's behind about whats best for any player, just them. as long as they can get the gil, and sell for real money, they dont care about the game, people who play.. anything. they are there only for real dollars, not to help anyone but themselves.

    as for monopolization.. I am not sure how much you actually do on the market, or if you check a lot, but having the same crafter with items up down to the upper 50's in some cases, one in each category, sounds like pretty aggressive monopolization of any and all gear purchases.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ItMe View Post
    None of us can see 100% of the picture....What items are you finding that are being aggressively monopolized?
    It's cool and all if you want to chip in here but please do some research before you comment. If you don't know what items are being monopolized you are not a serious crafter/seller and/or have never done any research into botting on your world/data center.

    Most bots probably belong to the same group of people divided over the different worlds on a certain data center. They sell almost EVERY item lvl 50 and up. The same goes for the groups farming treasure maps and selling all the cloths/leathers. It's all super obvious if you look into it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kes13a View Post
    as for competition returning... this is just for me anyway, if I leave the market... I dont check the market.
    Perhaps you should reconsider.
    I've made a fair amount of gil supplying product to relatively "abandoned" markets.


    Quote Originally Posted by Prrringles View Post
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    That's cool and all but I asked for an example.
    If you don't have one...
    Either way, I noticed they're on a different cluster of servers than I, so I was more inquiring as to what the landscape looks like for them.


    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    I don't think he's saying that cheating is good for the game. He's saying low marketboard prices are good for the game.
    This is 100% what I'm trying to get at.
    Thank you for saying it so clearly when I couldn't but fumble around the idea.
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    Last edited by ItMe; 02-05-2021 at 07:24 AM.