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  1. #41
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    Something that it's not - and that never works.

    FFXIV tried to be anti-WoW version of WoW when it should have been an improved FFXI. The new Pokemon games are a slight improvement over the old ones (better battle tower, graphics, new things like Doctor trainers that heal you when you win, etc) which made its sense of "newness" have actual value. FFXIV had a sense of newness, but killed itself by failing at everything FFXI did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gifthorse View Post
    I know right.

    A slow & unresponsive battle system isn't new, neither is exhausting grind and minimal quests with no rewards or goals other than getting gear.
    This seems to be a rediculous observation; all MMO's ultimate goal is "getting gear." :/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe_Cool View Post
    Fun = make the game more enjoyable

    Reboot & Rebuild = Restructure the world of Eorzea. Creating new ideas and rebuilding some of the old ones.

    Live = Do it while keeping the Servers running


    There ya go!
    Hope this answered your "What does that even mean?" question Gifthorse.
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  4. #44
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xedonius View Post
    This seems to be a rediculous observation; all MMO's ultimate goal is "getting gear." :/
    Naw.

    in eq2 it could've been "deck out your house with awesome stuff" or "buy the biggest house"

    in swg it could've been "build a city", "deck out your ship" "deck out your house"


    but yeah usually if its not housing its gear, at least for the individual player.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe_Cool View Post
    Hope this answered your "What does that even mean?" question Gifthorse.
    You're being irrelevant.

    Quote Originally Posted by Xedonius View Post
    This seems to be a rediculous observation; all MMO's ultimate goal is "getting gear." :/
    LOL.

    That's my point. It's nothing new.

    Quote Originally Posted by Luhy View Post
    Something that it's not - and that never works.

    FFXIV tried to be anti-WoW version of WoW when it should have been an improved FFXI. FFXIV had a sense of newness, but killed itself by failing at everything FFXI did.
    Even still, don't you think their vision should be bigger than just: "let's imitate a bunch of games?"

    Even if they had taken it upon themselves to make FFXIV a new and improved FFXI, it begs the question: improved how? What's the direction they should take to improve FFXI?

    When making a game, a definitive direction is needed first and foremost. Only after this should other games be looked at.
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    I think the closest thing we got from Yoshi is that he said he thinks of games as Themeparks, and that he wants to give players lots of things to do.
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    Another GW2 post.... Are you kidding me...... Arenanet/NCsoft - Arenanet makes the game NCsoft is the publisher, NCsoft is EA sports Jr. they will ruin the game... enough of this nonsense. OP, this is a FF14 forum, go look at GW2 pictures online, and spare us this garbage.
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    As a FF fan i was disappointed with parts of the game too but people should really stop posting angry, sarcasting and hateful posts. being polite and constructve with the developer will go a long way and will help making the game better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Punxsutawney View Post
    Another GW2 post.... Are you kidding me...... Arenanet/NCsoft - Arenanet makes the game NCsoft is the publisher, NCsoft is EA sports Jr. they will ruin the game... enough of this nonsense. OP, this is a FF14 forum, go look at GW2 pictures online, and spare us this garbage.

    I can respect your opinion... but you are entirely wrong about NCsoft influencing Arena Net.


    Quote Originally Posted by luhy
    Something that it's not - and that never works.

    FFXIV tried to be anti-WoW version of WoW when it should have been an improved FFXI. The new Pokemon games are a slight improvement over the old ones (better battle tower, graphics, new things like Doctor trainers that heal you when you win, etc) which made its sense of "newness" have actual value. FFXIV had a sense of newness, but killed itself by failing at everything FFXI did.
    I completely agree. I really do feel like SE should've built off of FFXI's success, rather than going in an entirely different direction. Hell, as FFXI is right now it's pretty much an entirely different game that what it was when I played almost 8 years ago. lol
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    i would rather have the FF XIVgame mechanics and all but with a completely new setting/look/races than something that looks like a FFXIV but feels unrefined and unbalanced.
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