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    Dragonkat's Avatar
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    I'm sitting here right now watching two bots undercut themselves by 1 gil over and over on rings of crafting. It's hilarious and sad because i'm in the middle not being able to sell a damn thing because i'm being undercut in seconds. the frustration is actually quite real. and a STF report has been sent for all the good it will probably too.

    The kicker? One player is in topmast, the other is in Kholusia NOWHERE NEAR A BELL!

    I mean for gods sake how much more obvious can the cheating get here?

    As a legit crafter who basically is finding it impossible to sell a single damn high end item this is all kinds of stupid. Bout to just flood the market with super cheap Aesthete gear and say screw it. Any gil is better than none but this is ridiculous
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    Etherea Stormaire
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonkat View Post
    I'm sitting here right now watching two bots undercut themselves by 1 gil over and over on rings of crafting. It's hilarious and sad because i'm in the middle not being able to sell a damn thing because i'm being undercut in seconds. the frustration is actually quite real. and a STF report has been sent for all the good it will probably too.

    The kicker? One player is in topmast, the other is in Kholusia NOWHERE NEAR A BELL!

    As a legit crafter who basically is finding it impossible to sell a single damn high end item this is all kinds of stupid. Bout to just flood the market with super cheap Aesthete gear and say screw it. Any gil is better than none but this is ridiculous
    according to some, legit crafters apparently only care because we are exceedingly greedy.

    but, how can someone change prices not near a bell? its easy, the crafter has an Fc with various... shall we say..members (usually below 30 that live by retainer bells) they are the bot marketers. the crafter can be anywhere and the bots just cycle in and out changing prices.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kes13a View Post
    according to some, legit crafters apparently only care because we are exceedingly greedy.

    but, how can someone change prices not near a bell? its easy, the crafter has an Fc with various... shall we say..members (usually below 30 that live by retainer bells) they are the bot marketers. the crafter can be anywhere and the bots just cycle in and out changing prices.
    Duh me, I should have thought of that.

    Honestly either way though I just like selling things cheap anyway because the inflation on Bryn is stupid. I mean 300K for a Ase ring of crafting? At that point it's the crafters paradox, you need to craft to make money, but by the time you've made the money you pretty much can craft it yourself because it's cheaper AND easier. More so if you have a few friends like me who help you with the mats.

    Of course we can probably thank the bots for some of that inflation too I imagine, but the fact the in game economy is pretty much busted for anyone trying to actually use it is... yeah... frustrating is the most diplomatic word i can use. Anything else would get me a forum ban.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonkat View Post
    ...Bout to just flood the market with super cheap Aesthete gear and say screw it. Any gil is better than none but this is ridiculous
    All i can say is: DO IT. Sell any item you craft with about 10-20k profit. You will still rake in millions this way. Just prepare to craft more because everything will sell fast. Bots won't go below a certain point. You will even have other crafters trying to buy you out, but just keep spamming those cheap items, you will be king/queen of the MB. Just don't expect any friend requests
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prrringles View Post
    All i can say is: DO IT. Sell any item you craft with about 10-20k profit. You will still rake in millions this way. Just prepare to craft more because everything will sell fast. Bots won't go below a certain point. You will even have other crafters trying to buy you out, but just keep spamming those cheap items, you will be king/queen of the MB. Just don't expect any friend requests
    So far i've got the bots down from 300K to 99K, they're persistent. Though I just realized my reports probably wont do much good since it's reporting the name of the crafter, not the name of the character that actually owns these retainer bots. but such is life. Least I get to see how far i can take this before moving on to make something else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonkat View Post
    So far i've got the bots down from 300K to 99K, they're persistent. Though I just realized my reports probably wont do much good since it's reporting the name of the crafter, not the name of the character that actually owns these retainer bots. but such is life. Least I get to see how far i can take this before moving on to make something else.
    Just keep going until they stop undercutting. Even if you make only a small profit. Once you reach that point, only you will make profit.
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