Does Square intend to address Market botting?

[Prrringles]

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Yeah thanks for the tips. I'm a crafter since it became a thing and have multiple gil caps so I can hold my own, thanks. To most of your questions: Because it works for me. No one buys my items if I set a price and leave it collect dust on my retainers. Bots undercut too frequent. Im not going to explain the obvious. It works for me in this bot controlled market. Period.

And the reason I come to the forum is because I care about other people losing interest in the game because of bots. I don't think this is trivial, but it should be. Bots should never have been a thing here if SE was more vigilent. I mean the JP servers are pretty clean.. why is that? Why can the STF keep their own backyard clean but not ours?

By the way, you never contribute anything to the cause here. All you do is argue and trying to discredit everyone here. I mean, look at your post counter. You reply on everything that gets posted on this forum. If you don't agree with something, post it, and move on. We can manage without you, thanks.

[ItMe]

I mean the JP servers are pretty clean.. why is that? Why can the STF keep their own backyard clean but not ours?

Are they clean?
I've heard this on these forums a few times but haven't been able to find anything about it (maybe because I only read basic Japanese lol).
I came from Tonberry (a JP server) and can assure you the bots were pretty ugly there too.
Why do people think those servers are clean?
Is this a "the grass is greener" sorta situation?
Or is there something behind this mentality?
Anyone got, like, stats or something?

By the way, you never contribute anything to the cause here. All you do is argue and trying to discredit everyone here. I mean, look at your post counter. You reply on everything that gets posted on this forum. If you don't agree with something, post it, and move on. We can manage without you, thanks.

This is just as unconstructive as you claim they're being.

Also, are we reading the same posts?
Jojoya is helpful, heck rereading the last few pages of this thread alone pretty much every post was about trying to clear something up or strike towards the heart of the tangent I started.
I find Jojoya's perspective helpful, and while they can be involved in arguments (we all can, especially with conversations about FF14's housing and markets) they're far from argumentative.

And careful when calling someone out like this. Its skirting close to the kinds of comments we've seen people get banned for.

[Kes13a]

noticed something the last day or so that has me stumped.

I target the bots on anything over about 175k. I put things up for about 60k and typically they will gleefully undercut me. the last day, one of my bot nemesis, the one I have noticed the longest, seems to have raised their basement. I doubt my one person crusade would have impacted their bottom line that much, so I am not sure what is going on.

[Jojoya]

By the way, you never contribute anything to the cause here. All you do is argue and trying to discredit everyone here. I mean, look at your post counter. You reply on everything that gets posted on this forum. If you don't agree with something, post it, and move on. We can manage without you, thanks.

It's a discussion forum for the game. You don't get to dictate who or who isn't allowed to enter a discussion.

I do contribute to the discussion. I offer a different perspective based on my years of playing MMOs and reading through the various articles developers have made regarding the fight against RMT and botting.

What I'm not going to contribute to is your attempts to turn the thread into an echo chamber. Echo chambers only promote ignorance.

noticed something the last day or so that has me stumped.

I target the bots on anything over about 175k. I put things up for about 60k and typically they will gleefully undercut me. the last day, one of my bot nemesis, the one I have noticed the longest, seems to have raised their basement. I doubt my one person crusade would have impacted their bottom line that much, so I am not sure what is going on.

Cost to produce has probably increased with fewer players farming Allegory this week as they can work on their Resistance Weapons instead. You don't get Allegory while farming the old Alliance raids and SB FATEs for your weapon items.

Things will probably go back to their normal patterns in a week or two when players are done with their intermediate step farming (it only has to be completed once per character instead of per weapon).

[Kes13a]

Cost to produce has probably increased with fewer players farming Allegory this week as they can work on their Resistance Weapons instead. You don't get Allegory while farming the old Alliance raids and SB FATEs for your weapon items.

Things will probably go back to their normal patterns in a week or two when players are done with their intermediate step farming (it only has to be completed once per character instead of per weapon).

That might be it, just a bit weird to have this one so reticent lately. but, I will enjoy it while I can lol

[Dragonkat]

noticed something the last day or so that has me stumped.

I target the bots on anything over about 175k. I put things up for about 60k and typically they will gleefully undercut me. the last day, one of my bot nemesis, the one I have noticed the longest, seems to have raised their basement. I doubt my one person crusade would have impacted their bottom line that much, so I am not sure what is going on.

Is Zalera on Aether or Crystal centers? According to an anti bot discord i've joined (see new sig) A lot of bots actually seem to have been nuked into obtaining signature land, and it's influencing mat prices.

[Jojoya]

Is Zalera on Aether or Crystal centers? According to an anti bot discord i've joined (see new sig) A lot of bots actually seem to have been nuked into obtaining signature land, and it's influencing mat prices.

Zalera is also on Crystal.

Let's hope those bots aren't quickly replaced as others have been (or better yet aren't replaced at all).

[Nepentha]

A major botting ring appears to have gone completely dark in the last week or so. One can only speculate on what happened to them, or if they'll return in some fashion.

[Kes13a]

A major botting ring appears to have gone completely dark in the last week or so. One can only speculate on what happened to them, or if they'll return in some fashion.

hope springs eternal.

I noticed the RMT bot ringmaster goes dark once in a while. but they always pop back up, typically with a new name so I assume they get banned. but since people still buy gil... it will only continue until the buyers get harsher penalties

[Xoto]

So I've traveled to all the different servers on the Crystal data center and the bot ring spans across them all. How it seems to work: the gathering bots get the materials and bring them to the crafting bot (the name of the account that shows up on the merchandise) who then gives the crafted items to market/pricing bots who sell.... well almost everything on the market board. These accounts then undercut real players (24/7) trying to sell goods at reasonable prices. After the bots item sells it is quickly replaced and real players products continue to sit on the market board. Make no mistake, this is coordinated across the entire data center. This is without a doubt one of the RMT rings.
Have your own doubts?
Do the research on your own.

Please:
Stay aware adventurers and avoid buying from bots.
Continue to report botting.
Continue to think of ways to combat bots

If you think this is an echo. It is.