Quote Originally Posted by Vickii View Post
Delete both races.

Honestly this is the third thread today about hats for races that were announced to not have hats.

Your best option is to roll a proper race and they shouldn’t pander to people making new ones in the future because the people that beg them for stuff are never happy and will keep demanding more and more.
I agree that they shouldn't make pander races, if they didn't want to make Viera they shoulda just did full Hrothgar as much like with Draggos it was a thing they wanted to make.

But the genie is outta the bottle now so "delete em" isn't a constructive stance. They won't even fix Elezen's crap run cycle cause "what if people who play it LIKE it???" and they know that's a massive part of why they're not popular.

Quote Originally Posted by Yencat View Post
There's already a setting to turn ears completely off they could use for hats that are large enough to feasibly fit the ears inside them, they wouldn't need to worry about them coming out the sides or top of the hat.



They can't just let the ears clip through more items because the ears aren't really the problem in most cases, it's the hair. The only reason the hood models work on us is because they make you bald underneath, a select few helmets that completely replace the head and hair also work, and small items that sit on top of the hair like a hairpin and don't require any further modification to the hair itself.

The bigger reason we don't have more (but definitely not all) working headgear isn't the ears clipping through or Hrothgar's face proportions at all, but the fact that they didn't make 2 models of the same hairstyle like they normally do that hide parts of the hair where the hat would sit when you equip it. Because this second, partially culled 'hat-hairstyle' doesn't exist for Viera and Hrothgar, if you were to force certain hats to show like in the image I posted earlier then the Hrothgar simply goes bald and Viera's ears and hair clips straight through it.

If they made partially culled 'hat-versions' of our hairstyles like they normally do then a lot more items would be able to be used while either hiding the ears or letting them clip through where appropriate.
Unless you're talking about a small number of hats I think you're getting your order mixed up.

It's not a case of "They just didn't make the hat hair model :v".
It's more like "They didn't intend for these races to wear hats so they didn't make a hat hair model".

No matter how you toss it Viera ears are a problem. They would NOT turn them invisible as that legit defeats the whole purpose of the race and they already look like straight cheap trash clipping through the few hoods/ bucket helms they are allowed to wear. (I mean, I can't speak for them but it's how they treat tails in that unless something is meant to cover/ replace it it just stays there)
The best option IMO for Viera (Hrothgar having to give up the mane for hats is kinda a problem to seeing as that's linked to CC but they're willing to take away that mane so ehh) would be to make a hat hair model with the ears poking out through the bottom. Because remodeling holes into every hat and making the "floppy ears" work for anything would just be far harder.

But again, you would have to have 4 different "Hat hair models" or "hat models" that have the 4 different ear models sticking outta the bottom that may also have to relate to the size selected for the ears as well as hair and highlights colors. No other race gets that amount of effort to accommodate their racial CC options.

So yeah ... they decided to give Viera the freedom to customize their ears at the cost of head gear as ear customization on that scale would make it hard af to make head gear, so that's why they didn't bother making the hat hair models in the first place.