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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dyvid View Post
    Don't introduce new races if you can't support it.

    Everyone is invited!!! Except for Viera and Hrothgar because you can't wear the helmet.
    But they said from the start they wouldn’t wear hats.

    It’s like the people that say don’t introduce BLU if it’s not the same as all the other jobs.

    If they were introduced as just another race and they were all buggy etc then I’d agree with you. But they specifically said no hats, and you roll knowing that.

    Their error was conceding only a little a bit because once you do that people only want more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vickii View Post
    But they said from the start they wouldn’t wear hats.

    It’s like the people that say don’t introduce BLU if it’s not the same as all the other jobs.

    If they were introduced as just another race and they were all buggy etc then I’d agree with you. But they specifically said no hats, and you roll knowing that.

    Their error was conceding only a little a bit because once you do that people only want more.
    Sorry but I'll agree to disagree. Release Viera and Hrothgar as is was a mistake and the devs need to be callout on it, not be enabled for it. Sometimes it feels like they forgot the hard earned lessons from years past. Not letting players use hairstyles or headgear that they have earned over the years kind of insulting and shows they should have spent more time designing the races to make them work in the current system. Next making them gender lock is a leap backwards from the Realm Reborn days where they introduced Male Miqo'te and Female Roagadyn.
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  3. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dyvid View Post
    Sorry but I'll agree to disagree. Release Viera and Hrothgar as is was a mistake and the devs need to be callout on it, not be enabled for it. Sometimes it feels like they forgot the hard earned lessons from years past. Not letting players use hairstyles or headgear that they have earned over the years kind of insulting and shows they should have spent more time designing the races to make them work in the current system. Next making them gender lock is a leap backwards from the Realm Reborn days where they introduced Male Miqo'te and Female Roagadyn.
    Okay so unless they’re willing to make both genders and make them fully compatible with every single item already in the game you don’t want them? I kinda agree seeing how the fanbase has reacted.

    Theres a bit of a problem with entitlement here though. For me them just adding them as npcs was fine. People cry to make them playable so they do. People cry they can’t wear hats so they add some. People cry they can’t wear specific ones. If they added all the hats they’d cry about clipping etc.

    This is the kinda thing that killed WoW.
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    As far as I can tell WoW is still the most popular mmorpg out there.
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    WHM | RDM | DNC

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ammokkx View Post
    I think pretty much everyone who did Eureka on Primal ~1,5 months back witnessed me losing my fucking mind in there
    On Primal, enjoy Eureka, can confirm.
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    The healer main's struggle for pants is both real, and unending. Be strong, sister. #GiveUsMorePants2k20 #HealersNotRevealers #RandomOtherSleepDeprivedHashtagsHere
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vickii View Post
    They then implemented a few pieces because people wanted them. And they made some for the cash shop because there was a demand for it.
    I think it's important to note that they're not (or at least I don't think it looks like they are) specifically designing Viera-compatible hats in response to demand. Rather they are carrying on with their usual design process making everything for Hyur first and IF the hat works with Viera they can have it.

    As far as I've seen there's a clear pattern to what works: soft, loose hoods and cute little hats that balance on top of the head without affecting the hair or clipping through the ears. Also that one armoured crown of course, but it fully covers the hair, dodges the ears and evidently meets any other criteria for being doable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    As far as I've seen there's a clear pattern to what works: soft, loose hoods and cute little hats that balance on top of the head without affecting the hair or clipping through the ears.
    They actually made the Dirndl's hat quite a lot smaller for Viera so they made the smallest bit of effort to actually get it to work there, but then they don't bother doing the same for Eastern Socialite's hat and other similar tiny hat models.

    It's always a surprise when something is actually visible because it's wildly inconsistent, the Elemental Helm of Fending also fully covers the face and hair as far as I can see so in theory it could have worked like the armored crown, but then it randomly doesn't. It wouldn't look great, but then things like this are just fine.



    Definitely always try before you buy on a case-by-case basis with Viera and Hrothgar. Or try before you put in the work, in OP's case.
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    Last edited by Yencat; 12-27-2020 at 09:58 AM.

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