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    I'd love a delay as well. Would make it easier for mixed groups where one half wishes to dive into the new tier asap while the other half wants to enjoy the Raid's story (and MSQ). Also, the general pressure that will be alleviated as others wrote countless times. Even world first wouldn't be influenced too much.

    I read someone claiming people who enjoy both now would need to take 2 weeks off, but actually you'd only need the Savage Release off, with the prior week being accessible after work etc.

    I started a discussion about delayed Savage a while back and suggested a few days rather than a week if that was a lot, but people rightfully informed me that such would mess with loot lockouts and weekly resets (aka people that can only raid the first two days after reset missing out on loot, for example).

    I think the whole situation is because FF XIV is a very story driven game, and we don't have the strict segregation of groups into raiders and story addicts. Those groups do intersect a lot here.

    [Also, what did they say about delaying Savage in this live letter? I seem to have missed it. Grateful for information!]
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    Quote Originally Posted by RicaRuin View Post
    =[Also, what did they say about delaying Savage in this live letter? I seem to have missed it. Grateful for information!]
    "Normal and Savage mode will be implemented on the same day. Yoshida is aware that he received a lot of feedbacks regarding players don't have enough time to prepare but since the flow was already decided for the entire expansion (meaning the entire Shadowbringers) they cannot just simply change it. However they will look into this for future plans."

    Quoted from the reddit LL transition.

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    Never saw it as a big deal tbh.

    If you aren't a world first contender (and lets be real, there's a 99% chance none of you reading this are) then you can just sort out with your group to wait a week to prepare for it. It's not really the devs responsibility to hold things back because your group doesn't have self control.

    It doesn't matter much either way.
    Why does this keep getting suggested? Waiting a week means you lose out on loot, defeating the entire point of preparation since you'll have better gear the following week anyway. It isn't a solution nor does it have anything to do with self control. Furthermore, it isn't just world prog players who are bothered by this but people attempting week 1 or early week 2 kills. As others have noted, if your static has a mixture of people who enjoy the story and others who are indifferent or want to skip everything. Some are losing out. Now if everything was released all at once, you could make the argument that's just how it goes. It isn't. Literally every other piece of content, including the first Savage tier and Ultimate, are delayed purely so players aren't rushed be it through gear preparation or story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    "Normal and Savage mode will be implemented on the same day. Yoshida is aware that he received a lot of feedbacks regarding players don't have enough time to prepare but since the flow was already decided for the entire expansion (meaning the entire Shadowbringers) they cannot just simply change it. However they will look into this for future plans."

    Quoted from the reddit LL transition.
    So they just repeated what they said about Savage implementation in previous live letters for previous Patches. Unfortunately just hot air as they seem like a broken record at this point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RicaRuin View Post
    So they just repeated what they said about Savage implementation in previous live letters for previous Patches. Unfortunately just hot air as they seem like a broken record at this point.
    This feels like it has a bit more merit to it because Yoshida brought it up unexpectedly whereas previous LL, it's been part of a Q&A. I also got the impression that he's been receiving more feedback from all three regions since the last time they mentioned it. While it may be hot air, there's a little more meat here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    This feels like it has a bit more merit to it because Yoshida brought it up unexpectedly whereas previous LL, it's been part of a Q&A. I also got the impression that he's been receiving more feedback from all three regions since the last time they mentioned it. While it may be hot air, there's a little more meat here.
    If I remember correctly, in the Patch 5.2 Live Letter he brought it up by himself outside of the Q&A part, when it was time to talk about the Raid. They also said it was too late for that Patch but received a lot of Feedback that a delay is desired and they will keep that in mind for later Patches.

    Edit: Nevermind, it was worded different.

    The next Eden raid is called Eden's Verse. We considered making adjustments to delay the release of savage after the normal; however, decided to implement them at the same time.
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