Please don't delay Savage Raid Releases

[Crushnight]

Delaying savage by one week on its own is harmless, people would just adjust schedules for the new release date and go from there.

The only issues that would crop up is if they delay anything else with it, particularly the new capped tombstones, there is precedence for them doing this as when they delay the 1st savage tier they delay the tombstones as well.

Tombstones being delayed affect many more players than savage being delayed does, everyone who just caps tombstones never stepping foot into savage would just be forced to wait 1 extra week to get everything they want, which would be unfair to them.

If savage alone is the only thing delayed by 1 week, I see no harm in doing it, in fact I think it would be much more beneficial to do this for a lot of people, however if anything else is delayed with it, I think it wouldn't be as worth it to do.

[Kaurhz]

Delaying crafted by the same time literally defeats the purpose of requesting the savage delay.

Really? I thought a large purpose of delaying savage would have been so that people within the raiding scene could enjoy all spaces of content, be it unreal, the main scenario, or even the normal mode story of raids without needing to rush the content just so they can go onto hardcore progression. Sure, you can play it afterward in the inn room, but that isn't even remotely the same. It spreads the content so they don't feel obligated to rush it.

Guess we're going to have to disagree here. Especially since you're then by not delaying crafted you're essentially killing a large portion of the content for a LOT of crafters, which is the day 1 rush and all the preparation which leads up to it. At this point, the whole idea of preparation becomes null since not many people really have any real need for the gear until the following week, and with that, you're looking at quite heavily crashing the markets before the gear even becomes useful. Sure, it's a perk, but a perk that comes at the expense of killing content for others.

[NanaWiloh]

Yea going need that prep if what yoshi said is true about e11s being a prog haulter hehe

[Waterscape]

1 week is too much , 3 days okay. MSQ , new extreme and crafting done.

[Wyakin]

1 week is too much , 3 days okay. MSQ , new extreme and crafting done.

The reason why it’s one week is not because it requires a week, it’s because that’s the logical timeframe between patches on a Tuesday.

Also, the reason why (as many many people have said) we want a delay is so we can do a few things. Enjoy the story at our own pace, craft raid gear without feeling rushed, enjoy side story, do the new trial.

[SnowVix]

1 week is too much , 3 days okay. MSQ , new extreme and crafting done.

anything less than a week is not a possibility, game is patched on Tuesdays (and it causes a partial week to be the first week, which unfairly disadvantages some)

[linayar]

So is there a source on them saying 5.4 savage is delayed 1 week? Or is it in consideration for 6.X raid tiers and beyond?

It's a consideration for 6.2 and beyond. It's too late for 5.4 and 6.0 will continue to have Savage on delay as usual regardless of what they decide for 6.2 onward.

There is no effecting the balance of the fight.

I hope you're right, but I'll believe it when I see them not delay tomestone.

It allows people to get crafted and tomb gear

That's what I'm hoping will happen if they delay, and I won't have a problem with it. But if delaying Savage means delaying new tomestone gears, then no delay for me.

[Wyakin]

Why not? If you’re not raiding then you A: don’t need the gear in the first place because SE has a habit of making all content item level synced to a stupid level and B: you don’t need it because you’re not even raiding savage. If you are raiding savage then all it does is allow you time to organise crafted gear

[ForteNightshade]

Guess we're going to have to disagree here. Especially since you're then by not delaying crafted you're essentially killing a large portion of the content for a LOT of crafters, which is the day 1 rush and all the preparation which leads up to it. At this point, the whole idea of preparation becomes null since not many people really have any real need for the gear until the following week, and with that, you're looking at quite heavily crashing the markets before the gear even becomes useful. Sure, it's a perk, but a perk that comes at the expense of killing content for others.

As a long time omni-crafter, this is simply inaccurate. People buy gear because they want upgrades. I've made more off casual players selling the highest ilvl gear than raiders. How do I know? Because raiders typically aren't buying it week 5, 6,7, 10 and 11 yet casual players will. For the same reason people bother capping tomes each week. Plenty like upgrades even if it's technically unnecessary, and even more beneficial they wait.

From the preparation side of the argument. I have both crafted for an entire static (my own), spoken with several others and am in discords with high level crafters. Most, especially in the hardcore environment, are begging for a delay. It isn't lost content, it's a stress relief because now we don't have to trip ourselves trying to gather a plethora of different materials, new rotations, potential remelding and etc. Seriously, you have the likes of Ashe10 asking for a delay despite being one of the most prolific crafters in the game with billions of gil. On the more cynical side, Shadowbringers already put a huge dent in crafting content due to how easy most of it is. A week delay for raid preparation won't have even a fraction of as much an impact in terms of profit as this expansion's changes did.

When you couple all the above with a week's delay allowing those crafters to actually tackle all the other content, including story. We're typically the ones asking for the delay alongside raiders.

[Mavrias]

Honestly, if you are not a savage raider (or a raid team's dedicated crafter) you shouldn't really care if they delay savage & the new tomestone. You're not missing out on content. Raid groups get more time to enjoy story and start up a healthy potion and food stockpile for prog. Non raid crafters get a bit more time to get their goods on the market board for profit.

If you're not raiding, the tomestone gear has pretty much no tangible benefit for you. Especially, since it would be a maximum of one unupgraded accessory if you're getting a piece week one. And again, if you're not raiding, what effect does savage being delayed have on you?