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    Don't know if anyone mentioned it yet, but -

    "I'm different, you see. From the Ancients who clung to dear life... and from you." From this line it sounds like Fandaniel is already aware the PC is an incomplete reincarnation of Azem.

    The Void tower things appear to be transmitting a signal of some kind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cilia View Post
    Don't know if anyone mentioned it yet, but -

    "I'm different, you see. From the Ancients who clung to dear life... and from you." From this line it sounds like Fandaniel is already aware the PC is an incomplete reincarnation of Azem.

    The Void tower things appear to be transmitting a signal of some kind.
    The Void towers could be transmitting, as much as they could be syphoning aether. We'll have to wait for someone to state what they are actually doing. I'm sure they left this vague in the trailer on purpose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cilia View Post
    Don't know if anyone mentioned it yet, but -

    "I'm different, you see. From the Ancients who clung to dear life... and from you." From this line it sounds like Fandaniel is already aware the PC is an incomplete reincarnation of Azem.

    The Void tower things appear to be transmitting a signal of some kind.
    Wild Mass Guessing time!

    Could it be...the Sound? If so, is Fandaniel currently corrupted by it? Is his goal for Zenos to become the Sound's new body?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cilia View Post
    Don't know if anyone mentioned it yet, but -

    "I'm different, you see. From the Ancients who clung to dear life... and from you." From this line it sounds like Fandaniel is already aware the PC is an incomplete reincarnation of Azem.

    The Void tower things appear to be transmitting a signal of some kind.
    Found some translations on reddit:

    German: "We are profoundly different... you and the originals, you long for life, and I..."
    French: "This is why we are fundamentally different. You, like the ancient people, you think only of living."

    What is Fandaniel thinking of then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erendis View Post
    Found some translations on reddit:

    German: "We are profoundly different... you and the originals, you long for life, and I..."
    French: "This is why we are fundamentally different. You, like the ancient people, you think only of living."

    What is Fandaniel thinking of then?
    I think this is ultimately a change in villain philosophy. So the Unsundered, specifically ironed out by Emet in 5.0, are trying to save the Ancient lives and the ancient world they once knew. The WOL and the Scions are fundamentally doing the same thing for the current time period. What really made Shadowbringers a work of art is how both sides can't reconcile they essentially want to do the same thing for two distinct groups of people.

    So, Fandaniel is putting himself in a different philosophical camp. He doesn't care about saving the ancient world and the current world. Granted the details of his new philosophy are, from a story perspective, tipping the scales into a more dangerous situation then the WOL has faced. Ultimately, to pinpoint how Fandaniel's view is different, requires for him to have more screen time and be fleshed out better. And honestly, this is a good sign, because the Ascians spent the first two expansions shrouded in mystery and now that the current expansion shows the "jig is up" for the Unsundered, we need an anchor of a new mystery to drive the story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erendis View Post
    Found some translations on reddit:

    German: "We are profoundly different... you and the originals, you long for life, and I..."
    French: "This is why we are fundamentally different. You, like the ancient people, you think only of living."

    What is Fandaniel thinking of then?
    Put in that context...

    To me it sounds either like he doesn't care if he lives or dies, or unlike the Unsundered Ancients and us who want to protect life (in our own ways) he's out to cause as much death and destruction as possible for shiggles.

    Certainly fits with the pseudo-Kefka characterization people are hypothesizing he's meant to emulate...
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