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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    I'm not embarrassed in the least except for you and the silly responses you're making about clearing BA without discord and I don't need the Castrum discord to clear the content tyvm. I have confidence another hotfix is coming soon to fix the reward structure.
    It's true though. JP has had success in clearing BA without using Discord. Also, he's not making silly responses on this topic aside from you wanting evidence that's over in JP(go and ask a friend to translate for you so you can make a response - you might just get something). He stated it already anyway.

    JP's game culture is radically different than NA and EU's - mostly in the fact that cooperation seems to be lacking in the latter two. If anything, Discord provides a medium for people to find groups easier and not be as anxious about getting their first clear. It helps them get used to it and normalize that feeling. Castrum is technically the same level as an Alliance Raid in this regard in terms of difficulty, and I agree the reward structure needs fixing - but that probably isn't coming until 5.4 given how close we are to the next major patch.
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  2. #32
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyperiusUltima View Post
    It's true though. JP has had success in clearing BA without using Discord.
    It is my understanding they don't use discord for BA but I can't speak to that as being a fact as I don't speak Japanese or spend time in their forums. And yes their game culture is different. I have an endgame character on Chocobo on Mana DC and it's always fun to see how they approach content.

    Quote Originally Posted by HyperiusUltima View Post
    He's not making silly responses on this topic .
    I think people can judge for themselves about the responses he and I have made relative to BA. We weren't talking about Japan we were talking about NA and Eu. The fact of the matter is BA was not being cleared here without discord. Castrum was fine before the hotfix and will be fine when it's patched again. You may be right about having to wait for 5.4 but I hope not. It's major problem at the moment given not enough people are queuing because they don't feel it's worth their time. Can Discord be a temp solution for some until then perhaps but it's not needed to clear that content normally.

    And I might add a group just cleared Castrum in an instance where I'm cluster farming at the moment with 28 people.
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    Last edited by LaylaTsarra; 11-23-2020 at 09:14 AM.

  3. #33
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    Yep it was bound to happen sooner or later. When it comes to instances like Bozja you really need to get in as early as humanly possible during the time when everyone is rushing it. Anyone that tries to get in late gets screwed over.
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  4. #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khalithar View Post
    Yep it was bound to happen sooner or later. When it comes to instances like Bozja you really need to get in as early as humanly possible during the time when everyone is rushing it. Anyone that tries to get in late gets screwed over.
    Reminds me of Eureka....
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  5. #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    It's major problem at the moment given not enough people are queuing because they don't feel it's worth their time. Can Discord be a temp solution for some until then perhaps but it's not needed to clear that content normally.
    How do you think Rival Wings still keeps going? Discord Communities. They literally are driving that content. Otherwise, SE would see that entire piece of content become flat dead and nobody would ever do it again. The fact they're trying to distance Discord Communities away from the game and label it as a 3rd Party is concerning. If anything, XIV should see to work with the Discord Community since Discord's practically the best currently when it comes to communication software built for gaming.
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  6. #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyperiusUltima View Post
    How do you think Rival Wings still keeps going? Discord Communities. They literally are driving that content. Otherwise, SE would see that entire piece of content become flat dead and nobody would ever do it again. The fact they're trying to distance Discord Communities away from the game and label it as a 3rd Party is concerning. If anything, XIV should see to work with the Discord Community since Discord's practically the best currently when it comes to communication software built for gaming.
    I can't speak for Rival Wings I don't run the content.

    There is nothing wrong with Discord but this content was designed to try and provide a meta where that wasn't necessary. It was working just fine before the hotfix and I suspect it will be working just fine after they hotfix it again. Seems to me you and he are here to push your discord community and that's fine nothing wrong with that but to try and infer that this is somehow required in order to complete this content is extremely misleading.

    The game shouldn't have to rely on a 3rd party site in order for people to clear the content and I find there is nothing wrong with SE trying to provide that as part of their design philosophy. One of the things Eureka BA was criticized the most for was the inability for people to actually clear the content in zone without having to resort to a 3rd party site. One only has to think back to the shout chat in zone about don't touch my portals or those who would say Discord doesn't own those portals and so on. Got to the point were leads would tell their members to not respond to any shout chat or even let people know discord was in zone. Heaven forbid we have to deal with snipers who entered that content without discord. The memories are memorable for me to say the least.

    I use discord for lots of things and used it extensively for my BA clears and I found it to be a very rewarding experience. I certainly don't feel it's necessary here in this context.
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    Last edited by LaylaTsarra; 11-23-2020 at 11:12 AM.

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    I haven't done it in a while, Sure I wouldn't mind more of the gear or a fully upgraded set. but it should have cost 2x as much for the normal set and 1/2 as much for the augment set.

    Also, it should have been the same amount of time inside and out not 3 hours outside and 9 hours inside.

    Also, castrum clear should give 100% 1 bitter memories. 50% 2 10% 30. And you shouldn't be able to hold more than 6 required for the quest at one time.

    Add some clusters while they are at it I hate farming them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyperiusUltima View Post
    A lot of people exacerbate the rate of losing Mettle in Castrum like it's going to literally make you lose 100,000 Mettle just for a goof. You can gain TONS of Mettle just by doing stuff outside of Castrum - Bozja's rates for gaining Mettle are a higher net gain than what you can lose in there over a whole hour if you're constantly running FATEs. If you're not R15, then sure; but it shouldn't stop you from trying to get there.
    We don't know what's going to happen in the future of Bozjan. Will they add more ranks? I certainly don't want to touch Castrum if it means I'm going to have to grind even more once that happens.

    I'm not rank 15 yet but in trying to get to that point just to future-proof myself it's making me legitimately hate playing this game. And I'm not even dying that often, but even using it to level jobs I don't have at 80 yet I just can't stand the endless FATE grinding when I could just do a leveling roulette, followed by maybe MSQ with a show on my other monitor and then go do something else.

    Anything that would possibly set me back is a no-sell. I'm not touching Castrum for as long as it doesn't give mettle to offset any I might lose in there.

    I have never felt so down on any piece of content this game has offered, other than Blue Mage and the previous versions of Diadem. Bozjan I find mildly more enjoyable than them to the point I'm actually participating instead of giving it a hard pass.
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  9. #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kewitt View Post
    Also castrum clear should give 100% 1 bitter memories. 50% 2 10% 30. And you shouldn't be able to hold more than 6 required for the quest at one time.
    I suspect we'll see a good set of rewards including mettle xp, leveling xp, memories, clusters and perhaps gil and good tomes with a Castrum clear when they hotfix the issue.

    And relative to holding more than 6 bitter memories you can collect as many as you like as long as the quest is active. You can't get green memory drops without the quest. I have currently 42 bitters on the character i was using to farm them this afternoon and I only need 24 to finish her additional weapons for roles she has leveled. 3 zone cluster farms can be very rewarding for memories and one certainly doesn't need to do fates in world or run Antitower endlessly.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zakon View Post
    We don't know what's going to happen in the future of Bozjan. Will they add more ranks? I certainly don't want to touch Castrum if it means I'm going to have to grind even more once that happens.
    I think it's a pretty safe bet that the new content when added in 5.45 will have additional ranks. I suspect we'll probably have at least another 10 maybe 15 ranks before the endgame raids can be accessed. Each new Eureka zone that was added required a leveling process in order to complete it and move on to the next zone.
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    Last edited by LaylaTsarra; 11-23-2020 at 11:10 AM.

  10. #40
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    I suspect we'll probably have at least another 10 maybe 15 ranks before the endgame raids can be accessed.
    Good god I hope not. Added bolds/underlines for emphasis. I can barely stand getting to rank 15 as it is. I mean I did Castrum quite a while ago for the first time and I was a much lower rank than my current (13).
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