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    Quote Originally Posted by Veis_Alveare View Post
    Who's suggesting that the roulette go away, exactly? Why is that statement even relevant?

    Yes, queues taking inordinate amounts of time shows the roulettes isn't functioning as intended. Were it happening for every potential instance in the roulette it would mean that not enough people were queuing for that roulette (so rewards might need an increase) but as it stands queues for later alliance raids are clearly demonstrated to be disproportionately long.

    This is really cut and dry, I'm not sure why anyone is even trying to still argue it.
    The roulette existing and people still being able to clear those specific raids mean it's still functioning as intended. That's pretty cut and dry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by linayar View Post
    The roulette existing and people still being able to clear those specific raids mean it's still functioning as intended. That's pretty cut and dry.
    People would be able to clear those raids even without the roulette, it'd just take even longer or it would mean organizing outside of DF as was done for alliance raids prior to the implementation of the roulette.

    You're just playing a broken record, acting like if any queue eventually pops the associated roulettes are perfectly fine.

    Queue for CT. You'll be in in 5.

    Queue for Orbonne. Go watch a few episodes of a show while you wait.

    The disparity would not be that large if the roulette functioned as intended because the devs definitely didn't intend for artificially increased wait times for some of the content in the same roulette - if they did they also wouldn't have locked current expansion relic weapons behind completion of the content with the longest wait time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veis_Alveare View Post
    People would be able to clear those raids even without the roulette, it'd just take even longer or it would mean organizing outside of DF as was done for alliance raids prior to the implementation of the roulette.

    You're just playing a broken record, acting like if any queue eventually pops the associated roulettes are perfectly fine.

    Queue for CT. You'll be in in 5.

    Queue for Orbonne. Go watch a few episodes of a show while you wait.

    The disparity would not be that large if the roulette functioned as intended because the devs definitely didn't intend for artificially increased wait times for some of the content in the same roulette - if they did they also wouldn't have locked current expansion relic weapons behind completion of the content with the longest wait time.
    That's a reach to say about the relic tie in when the story and author connects the two contents.

    And if the disparity is not intended, then they should fix it, but they didn't, even when the "issue" has been long known. It most likely mean the issue is not affecting the performance of the roulette.

    They even made CT required for MSQ, which would've made the situation worse, but it seems fine on their end. So long queues could simply be a result of a number of things and not necessarily people abusing the system, and it's still within whatever acceptable rate they have for getting people to clear the raids if they want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by linayar View Post
    That's a reach to say about the relic tie in when the story and author connects the two contents.

    And if the disparity is not intended, then they should fix it, but they didn't, even when the "issue" has been long known. It most likely mean the issue is not affecting the performance of the roulette.

    They even made CT required for MSQ, which would've made the situation worse, but it seems fine on their end. So long queues could simply be a result of a number of things and not necessarily people abusing the system, and it's still within whatever acceptable rate they have for getting people to clear the raids if they want.
    If you believe the SE is remotely that responsive then there is no point conversing with you because that's an entirely unrealistic perspective to have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veis_Alveare View Post
    If you believe the SE is remotely that responsive then there is no point conversing with you because that's an entirely unrealistic perspective to have.
    So now you're just blaming it on SE not being responsive instead of SE not thinking it's a problem that warrants changing, even when they do thing that would exacerbate the alleged problem. If they acknowledge it as a problem internally, even if they don't have the time to fix it, they wouldn't knowingly make it worse. So, yeah, you're not making sense at this point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by linayar View Post
    So now you're just blaming it on SE not being responsive instead of SE not thinking it's a problem that warrants changing, even when they do thing that would exacerbate the alleged problem. If they acknowledge it as a problem internally, even if they don't have the time to fix it, they wouldn't knowingly make it worse. So, yeah, you're not making sense at this point.
    Ahh, so now you think that everything they do is informed and intentional.

    Main a tank or especially a healer for a tier and then talk to me about how many things SE messes up even when they're trying to fix something.

    You've never made sense once in this thread so maybe don't go throwing stones in glass houses, bud.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veis_Alveare View Post
    Ahh, so now you think that everything they do is informed and intentional.

    Main a tank or especially a healer for a tier and then talk to me about how many things SE messes up even when they're trying to fix something.

    You've never made sense once in this thread so maybe don't go throwing stones in glass houses, bud.
    Except they're not trying to fix something with the alliance raid. They write a story and thinks it's fine to make CT raid mandatory for the purpose of the story. There's not even a hint that they're thinking there's a problem with the alliance raid, so your dissatisfaction with tanks/healers is irrelevant because they've acknowledged problems with role/job designs.
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