Please fix the “naked queueing” for Aliance Raids

[Seddrinth]

It starts being your business when you are the one being negatively influenced by their actions. Gaming the Alliance roulette wouldn't be as big a deal or as complained about if it only influenced the exploiter's results, but it is also heavily influencing the results of those not attempting to cheese the roulette.

What is this egregious negative influence you are referring to? Getting a different alliance raid than the one you prefer? First world problems right there.

[Veis_Alveare]

What is this egregious negative influence you are referring to? Getting a different alliance raid than the one you prefer? First world problems right there.

Orbonne can take an hour or more to pop when queuing solo suggests the roulette is not actually achieving that goal. Whether that's because people are ilevel cheesing to ensure they get Crystal Tower, or whether it's because people who queue for alliance roulette have never unlocked Orbonne and don't want to do the Ivalice raids, or if it's because people only queue for alliance roulette when they're leveling an alt job and stop doing so when they hit 60, or if it's because the moon is in the third house and the server is made of cheese... the point is that something isn't working as intended.

Ohey these arguments are bad enough I can just reply to them with quotes from posts above them.

Stop contributing to the problem \o/

Edit: Ohey, a product of this exact issue.

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...equisite-issue

[linayar]

Ohey these arguments are bad enough I can just reply to them with quotes from posts above them.

Not really, long queues are not enough for it to be a problem that needs fixing. Like I said, I've done the alliance raid roulettes for nearly a year without having CT series unlocked. Yes, queueing for a specific raid not in the CT series may take longer, but you can do it and you only have to do it once per character unless you want something from it.

[Veis_Alveare]

Not really, long queues are not enough for it to be a problem that needs fixing. Like I said, I've done the alliance raid roulettes for nearly a year without having CT series unlocked. Yes, queueing for a specific raid not in the CT series may take longer, but you can do it and you only have to do it once per character unless you want something from it.

Those are some mighty big blinders you have on.

The purpose of the alliance raid queue is to fill the queues for people trying to complete alliance raids... but manipulation of the alliance raid queues which directly impedes the primary function of the roulette is "not a problem that needs fixing" hmm...

"Well sir, your heart isn't pumping enough blood through your body for your extremities to function. You won't die though, so we think it's basically working as intended."

God, what amazing logic.

[linayar]

Those are some mighty big blinders you have on.

The purpose of the alliance raid queue is to fill the queues for people trying to complete alliance raids... but manipulation of the alliance raid queues which directly impedes the primary function of the roulette is "not a problem that needs fixing" hmm...

Long queue does not impede that function. Without the roulette, there may not be a queue at all.

[Veis_Alveare]

Long queue does not impede that function. Without the roulette, there may not be a queue at all.

Who's suggesting that the roulette go away, exactly? Why is that statement even relevant?

Yes, queues taking inordinate amounts of time shows the roulettes isn't functioning as intended. Were it happening for every potential instance in the roulette it would mean that not enough people were queuing for that roulette (so rewards might need an increase) but as it stands queues for later alliance raids are clearly demonstrated to be disproportionately long.

This is really cut and dry, I'm not sure why anyone is even trying to still argue it.

[linayar]

Who's suggesting that the roulette go away, exactly? Why is that statement even relevant?

Yes, queues taking inordinate amounts of time shows the roulettes isn't functioning as intended. Were it happening for every potential instance in the roulette it would mean that not enough people were queuing for that roulette (so rewards might need an increase) but as it stands queues for later alliance raids are clearly demonstrated to be disproportionately long.

This is really cut and dry, I'm not sure why anyone is even trying to still argue it.

The roulette existing and people still being able to clear those specific raids mean it's still functioning as intended. That's pretty cut and dry.

[Seddrinth]

Not really, long queues are not enough for it to be a problem that needs fixing. Like I said, I've done the alliance raid roulettes for nearly a year without having CT series unlocked. Yes, queueing for a specific raid not in the CT series may take longer, but you can do it and you only have to do it once per character unless you want something from it.

Yep. I've done Rabanastre, Lighthouse, and Monastery within the last 2 weeks by directly queueing for them and had no issues. They weren't instant queues but the wait wasn't long.