Toxic WHM Glare spammers

[Hyperia]

Ran into a whm in puppets bunker last night. Their favorite spells were GLARE and MEDICA II. Was I suprised no, just like How I am not suprised by scholars who leave their pets to do 99% of their healing.

Please remember that WHM now has a large number of instant cast heals that show no casting bar. One regen, three AOE heals, three single target heals and several of them have multiple charges. So while it looks like all there doing is cast glare and Medica 2, there may be more to it than that. With a group that is taking minimal damage, the instant heals are more than sufficient to keep the group alive. After that, its DPS to fill the time. If things get messy, I will resort to GCD heals as that will be all that I will have remaining as the instants were used. I try to keep the MT above 75% HP and the DPS above 90%, if there below those numbers I heal instead of DPS. If I know something nasty is coming, I will top everybody off. For me, my little game is to see how much DPS I can do while keeping people as closed to topped off as possible.

[NanaWiloh]

Please remember that WHM now has a large number of instant cast heals that show no casting bar. One regen, three AOE heals, three single target heals and several of them have multiple charges. So while it looks like all there doing is cast glare and Medica 2, there may be more to it than that. With a group that is taking minimal damage, the instant heals are more than sufficient to keep the group alive. After that, its DPS to fill the time. If things get messy, I will resort to GCD heals as that will be all that I will have remaining as the instants were used. I try to keep the MT above 75% HP and the DPS above 90%, if there below those numbers I heal instead of DPS. If I know something nasty is coming, I will top everybody off. For me, my little game is to see how much DPS I can do while keeping people as closed to topped off as possible.

I am aware of instant casts having no timer. Easy to tell if you got a c0-healer slacking off, just wait for damage you know wont kill the party but bring their hp down a good chunk. After that just wait a short period to see if your co-healer gets off their rear before you step in. Sad to say Whm was not getting off their rear they were wiggling it.

[AmeliaVerves]

I am aware of instant casts having no timer. Easy to tell if you got a c0-healer slacking off, just wait for damage you know wont kill the party but bring their hp down a good chunk. After that just wait a short period to see if your co-healer gets off their rear before you step in. Sad to say Whm was not getting off their rear they were wiggling it.

Given the fact that AST has the most oGCD heals of all healers that are literally free to use and also hecking powerful without loosing any uptime or DPS imo it's perfectly fine for a WHM (who looses the most potency) to have trust in your skills.
Maybe try to work on yourself first before looking at others?
There is a certain website where ppl upload all kind of runs and you can check which casts/instants and how many you did in a fight, to see if you fully utilized your toolkit.

[Hatfright]

You aren't an always-right-wannabe but you have been a refreshing breath of reason amongst... this. So thanks for that!

The image in your signature is also amazing and kind of symbolizes a lot of what's actually wrong here.

And yet yall keep coming back to "troll treads". Thanks, I guess.

[Lukha]

Eh, if you have more than 1 HP I'm healing enough.
*goes back to casting Glare*

[ADVSS]

Eh, if you have more than 1 HP I'm healing enough.
*goes back to casting Glare*

What happens when they have less than 1 hp?(so glad Im not on adamantoise)

[Tridus]

What happens when they have less than 1 hp?(so glad Im not on adamantoise)

Depends. If they died to unavoidable damage, I didn't do my job.

If they're one of those BLMs who doesn't have move buttons, then I'll just take over their Ley Lines for them, since all healers gain a 5% DPS boost while standing on a BLM corpse. That's how we "adjust".

[Veis_Alveare]

Depends. If they died to unavoidable damage, I didn't do my job.

If they're one of those BLMs who doesn't have move buttons, then I'll just take over their Ley Lines for them, since all healers gain a 5% DPS boost while standing on a BLM corpse. That's how we "adjust".

If only!

Well said \o/

[NanaWiloh]

Given the fact that AST has the most oGCD heals of all healers that are literally free to use and also hecking powerful without loosing any uptime or DPS imo it's perfectly fine for a WHM (who looses the most potency) to have trust in your skills.
Maybe try to work on yourself first before looking at others?
There is a certain website where ppl upload all kind of runs and you can check which casts/instants and how many you did in a fight, to see if you fully utilized your toolkit.

Maybe try not to jump the gun with site use the run in question is not even logged. Said site relies on its dps meter for information which not everyone uses, so the only runs that appear are ones where the meter was present. My last puppets run was 10/19/2020 prior to reset. So you are looking at 3 week old run where the Whm's didnt slack off, I also know I can do better. But I am also not stupid I can tell if another healer is slacking off.

[Krojack]

I know this situation is not new at all, but it is quite annoying and ruins the fun of the game.

Every time I see a WHM in my party, I expect that this player may not heal, instead there will be Glare/Stones spam. No regen, no bubble, no res, not the slightest effort. Sometimes just Cure I/II on 5-10% HP, or healing only themselves.

In 80% of cases, everything turns out to be exactly that toxic way, and either I have to heal the entire raid alone as a healer, losing a huge amount of mana. Or I have to think only about my own survival instead of wall-to-wall pulls and uptime playing as a tank or dps.

It's not a big problem if I'm playing PLD or WAR, but I'm not having fun at all, compensating for someone's laziness. The joke about green DPS is no longer funny. Cause I come to have fun and not to heal for them or try to survive while they are throwing stones.

Disclaimer: Not all WHM's behave this way. There are excellent players to whom I am very grateful, but due to subjective experience, I have met spammers of stones much more often.

If everyone is doing their job and using their abilities properly then a WHM doesn't need to do much healing. They have several instant cast heals (one of which is better to use for damage) that you may not even notice them using.

Don't even get me started with tanks pulling EVERYTHING and not using any cooldowns.