Toxic WHM Glare spammers

[RajNish]

I would pose the question also, are the DPS and tank healing because they think they have to or because the healer is letting them get close to death (or even letting them die) and aren't trying to heal? The latter I see less of. The former I see more. If in a PUG and you don't know the healer, I can perhaps get people might play it safe seeing their health drop because they don't know if they healer is being resourceful or not. At the same time, there are people who'll cast Clemency at 70% health with no incoming tank busters because there is some perception that your health has to be at 100% all the time, which in a way is fair enough if you've not got the hang on some of the game's predictability and don't want to risk it. But it doesn't necessarily mean it's a bad or lazy healer.

It was Bunker. Our WHM used nothing but Glare. At some point, another alliance deployed their boss on us, so we were all dead. The healer of another alliance resurrected the WHM, he resurrected me, and continued to use only Glare. It wasn't 70% HP. It was an urgent resurrection/heal after a wipe, in which he did nothing just dpsing. Please stop making excuses for really bad players.

[Veis_Alveare]

It was Bunker. Our WHM used nothing but Glare. At some point, another alliance deployed their boss on us, so we were all dead. The healer of another alliance resurrected the WHM, he resurrected me, and continued to use only Glare. It wasn't 70% HP. It was an urgent resurrection/heal after a wipe, in which he did nothing just dpsing. Please stop making excuses for really bad players.

With the way so many flaws keep getting pointed out in your arguments and there are such rampant inconsistencies in your attempted statistics it's hard to take anything you say seriously.

Plus you have yet to address how you were aware he had Swiftcast up. Were you running a third party tool to track the CDs of other players? Cause that's about the only way I could see it.

If you expect people to hard raise you're going to be disappointed by most competent healers, since most won't unless there's a good reason. Tank down and theres a buster coming? Many players down before a stack marker? Cohealer down when you aren't confident in your own ability to solo heal? Those are the only reasons to hard raise in casual content imo, other than the off chance a truly god-tier dps happens to go down and I know I'll have time to complete the cast.

Otherwise... yeah, keep on Glaring. That's what you should be doing.

[Saefinn]

It was Bunker. Our WHM used nothing but Glare. At some point, another alliance deployed their boss on us, so we were all dead. The healer of another alliance resurrected the WHM, he resurrected me, and continued to use only Glare. It wasn't 70% HP. It was an urgent resurrection/heal after a wipe, in which he did nothing just dpsing. Please stop making excuses for really bad players.

I'm not making excuses for bad players. One, some of those players are genuinely learning and are making mistakes. Two, I agree bad players exist, it's just a fact of life. And three, sometimes people misconstrue what a healer is doing as being a bad healer as I've seen reading from some of the posts in this thread - and heck some people think a healer that does any DPS is a bad healer (I've been told off for DPSing before now, although my healing was fine).

But on the "bad player" front when it comes to healers I don't think it's an issue as wide spread as people make out and sadly, I think this hyperbole of it being such a problem that it is the kind of thing that the devs can look at healing as a role and think "how can we make this easier so fewer people don't play it badly?" With how healers play following ShB changes, I'd hate to see them think they'd need to lower the bar further on healer complexity and do something crazy and stop healers from contributing to DPS altogether and watch as playing a healer role in this game is dead boring because of that aforementioned ~30% up time for most content.


But my reply to you opened with a question, rather than making assumptions about your run. And communicated what I tend to find. I know bad players exist. So by no means am I making excuses for them. In your case, maybe he did have the wrong priorities and was a bad healer. I would probably be of the frame of mind of asking the healer, because if I see something that don't seem right that's making a run not go well, I usually try to help them out and learn. At the same time you can ascertain whether they're an idiot, somebody with a bad attitude, somebody who genuinely screwed up/made a mistake/had an error in judgment etc or if there is something you hadn't considered about that situation.

[RajNish]

I'm not making excuses for bad players. One, some of those players are genuinely learning and are making mistakes.

No, it doesn't look like this person is studying. It looks like he went to this raid to be a green DPS and get his loot.

[Veis_Alveare]

No, it doesn't look like this person is studying. It looks like he went to this raid to be a green DPS and get his loot.

Does everyone love how this guy just fails to answer any actual, direct questions and can only respond with assumptions he makes?

You know what they say about assumptions...

[JohnSpawnVFX]

Does everyone love how this guy just fails to answer any actual, direct questions and can only respond with assumptions he makes?

You know what they say about assumptions...

That's usually a big sign that this actually an overexaggerated story to start a witch hunt against WHM players.

Let's play the assumption game too. given OP does not have evidence of what they're telling and it's just one side of the story, which can easily be exaggerated or lied about and try to guess OP's true reasons for this thread:

- Possibly OP got called out for not DPS while playing a SCH, by a WHM or while co-healing with one (therefore being compared to them)
- Or OP got replaced by a WHM while running Savage for accessories
- Or the rare kind of troll that likes to smokescreen with other's bad practices to feel better about their own bad practices (wouldn't be surprised if OP is an auto-following tank SCH letting only the fairy heal on low level duties)

[Veis_Alveare]

- Possibly OP got called out for not DPS while playing a SCH, by a WHM or while co-healing with one (therefore being compared to them)
- Or OP got replaced by a WHM while running Savage for accessories
- Or the rare kind of troll that likes to smokescreen with other's bad practices to feel better about their own bad practices (wouldn't be surprised if OP is an auto-following tank SCH letting only the fairy heal on low level duties)

Based on Lodestone mounts I'd wager he isn't completing any current level Savage.

Based on the total absence of DH melds (and crystal ball data from the magical place of non-approved character data which shall remain nameless) I'd put my money on him being a little-to-no dps healer who believes if you don't keep 100% shield and Medica II uptime everyone will wipe because you aren't healing.

Wow, assumptions are fun! I see why people do it! (Like... half jk)

[Liam_Harper]

No, it doesn't look like this person is studying. It looks like he went to this raid to be a green DPS and get his loot.

"This person"? I thought there was an army of 80% Glare spamming 0 heal White Mages, now it's a single bumpy run in Puppets Bunker?

[Hatfright]

Funny how lots of people started defending themselfs like the initial message was directed at them personally. Troubles with self-appreciation much?

[JohnSpawnVFX]

Funny how lots of people started defending themselfs like the initial message was directed at them personally. Troubles with self-appreciation much?

Oh look, how cute. OP had to call an FC mate to defend him.