Toxic WHM Glare spammers

[Saefinn]

I don't know how many times I have to tell you that a player who goes to a raid as a healer and does not heal at all, while the second healer is forced to do all the work for both, this is not a "player who will improve" or "a player who made a mistake", this is a player who came to parasitize on the group, and yes, this is a bad player.

I am very interested in why you do not rush to the defense in another thread, where someone said that almost the entire FF 14 player base is bad? Why aren't you defending the "bad pugs"? Probably because this is not your personal interest and passion.

Probably because I've not read that thread, I don't ready every single thread.

But 80% of WHM's you get don't heal and just leech? I've acknowledged, yes a portion of players are like that. So I figure you're either overstating the issue, you're misreading your co-healers in many cases or somehow your experience is big anomaly.

Apologies if I am a bit of a stickler on it, but I guess, one of my frustrations is that I see people overstate or poorly represent issues and SE act on them and we can see how SE has already gutted healers on this whole "healers shouldn't DPS" row and people complaining about healers DPSing and now we have a really dumbed down DPS rotation that's and healing itself is too easy most of the time that we are DPSing most of the time. They've got rid of different flavours to playing after people complained about healers screwing up, like Cleric Stance, which they just got rid of because people mismanaged it and people complained about healer DPS, whereas, they could have improved on it.

But it's just not just specific to this but people seem to have a habit of overstating the extent the things that annoy them are a problem and the impression it gives is that it is a bigger & more widespread problem than it actually is.

[JohnSpawnVFX]

Ah, don't you love it when people try their hardest to peddle something subjective as an objective fact and then backpedal (or have their FC mate backpedalling for them) as soon as they're called out?

I mean, we sure haven't seen someone presenting their "subjective opinion", argue the rest of the topic as if it applies to the whole playerbase and then retreat back into the safety of "it's just my subjective opinion!" when it doesn't go well for them. Kinda like the people who say something controversial then cover their ass by saying it was just a joke.

[BokoToloko]

Only time I had healers forget to heal at all was one specific fight during a DF run of Syrcus Tower. Was tanking the 2nd boss as DRK and the 2 WHM i had didn't even bother throwing a single at me as I was slowly dropping health. Not even when i was at 10% health. Not even a Benediction.

And while it was only once, I have to admit it felt really awful when it happened. Specially with it being a slow death.

To me, a Healer that doesn't DPS during downtime is a bad healer, and I can somewhat bear to call them out on that during a run. A healer that doesn't bother throwing a single heal is not a healer and, as such, it doesn't belong in that spot. Thus, it's a kick for them if they don't bother with keeping people alive repeatedly. Thankfully, I have yet to get to that point (though it's mostly because I usually queue DF as a Healer).

[RajNish]

Thus, it's a kick for them if they don't bother with keeping people alive repeatedly.

The problem is that most often they do not respond to a request to heal, they simply ignore it. It is also impossible to kick them, cause they simply do not roll loot, and then the next battle begins. Once I saw how a non-healing conjurer went through the Labyrinth without doing anything except spam stones. This player knew what he was doing. Most of his classes were 80s.

[Hatfright]

Ah, don't you love it when people try their hardest to peddle something subjective as an objective fact and then backpedal (or have their FC mate backpedalling for them) as soon as they're called out?

I mean, we sure haven't seen someone presenting their "subjective opinion", argue the rest of the topic as if it applies to the whole playerbase and then retreat back into the safety of "it's just my subjective opinion!" when it doesn't go well for them. Kinda like the people who say something controversial then cover their ass by saying it was just a joke.

How nice of you to come back, my very reasonable fellow! I was wondering when will you show up with more gibberish to throw around. Leaving 1-2 comments without participating in a talk doesn't make you look smart, I hope you know that. Best wishes.

[JohnSpawnVFX]

How nice of you to come back, my very reasonable fellow! I was wondering when will you show up with more gibberish to throw around. Leaving 1-2 comments without participating in a talk doesn't make you look smart, I hope you know that. Best wishes.

Keep digging that hole deeper, sockpuppet-san ;-)

[Hatfright]

Keep digging that hole deeper, sockpuppet-san ;-)

At least I'm not some always-right-wannabe with nothing but personal attacks.

[JohnSpawnVFX]

always-right-wannabe

No, that would be your FC mate who you're defending at any cost, even if you have to contradict what he said earlier.

personal attacks.

You're not paying a lot of attention to your own posts, aren't you?

I may be an always-right-wannabe with nothing but personal attacks but I'm also the right person to recognize another one.

Self-righteous troll duo pot, meet kettle.

[Veis_Alveare]

No, that would be your FC mate who you're defending at any cost, even if you have to contradict what he said earlier.



You're not paying a lot of attention to your own posts, aren't you?

I may be an always-right-wannabe with nothing but personal attacks but I'm also the right person to recognize another one.

Self-righteous troll duo pot, meet kettle.

You aren't an always-right-wannabe but you have been a refreshing breath of reason amongst... this. So thanks for that!

The image in your signature is also amazing and kind of symbolizes a lot of what's actually wrong here.

[Kes13a]

with all of the replies by the OP and their friend, I can see why "80%" of healers didnt want to heal them

my subjective opinion of course