We Don't Need New Jobs

[LadyAveria]

We have 18 Jobs, 19 if you count Blue Mage.

I don't understand everyone always wanting new jobs for every expansion when our current jobs need devoted attention over creating a whole new job. Summoner to me still needs a lot of love as it doesn't feel like a pet-focused job, scholar, a few others. I know I am in the low end of the population but I rather the dev team spent their resources on fixing what we already got instead of just adding job after job to appease people that can't seem to be happy with picking between 18! EIGHTEEN FREAKING Choices.

[RicaRuin]

People want the Jobs they know and love from other Final Fantasy titles, can you really condemn them for that?

[LadyAveria]

People want the Jobs they know and love from other Final Fantasy titles, can you really condemn them for that?

I can when they whine at a Dev team who are already having to stretch themselves out across 18 jobs to balance and define.

WoW hasn't added new classes for two expansions with Shadowlands coming out.

Guild Wars 2 hasn't even released an expansion in awhile

These two are just examples that are still beloved and populated despite not having a billion jobs to choose from.

I am just saying when you look at it from the standpoint of how many we have...is it really justified getting shitty at Yoshi P and the team.

[Yencat]

I am just saying when you look at it from the standpoint of how many we have...is it really justified getting shitty at Yoshi P and the team.

Nobody should get shitty at anyone over it, but new jobs and races sell expansions. They know that as well, so they'll keep adding jobs as long as it's feasible.

[SaberMaxwell]

The assumption here is that focus will be on making current jobs better in lieu of adding more jobs. Ask tanks and healers how that generally ends up.

Also counting specs isn't WoW up to something to the tune of 30 ish playable jobs? Making a new class in WoW is more like making 2 to 3 because of specs, not to mention talent trees and how they interact with legendaries for balance. XIV is nowhere near that.

[LadyAveria]

The assumption here is that focus will be on making current jobs better in lieu of adding more jobs. Ask tanks and healers how that generally ends up.

I am a White Mage Main and I don't need another healer job, all the roles are filled o_o

White Mage - Spec to heal damage taken
Scholar - Spec to shield incoming damage
Astro - Buffs and Heals

Only roll we don't have is a debuffer but the debuff system in FFXIV is complicated and would need a rework for that to happen. Any healer will just be a copy and paste of one of the roles we already have, same shit different color. That is how I feel as a healer main but I know some are crying out for another job :3

[SaberMaxwell]

I am a White Mage Main and I don't need another healer job, all the roles are filled o_o

White Mage - Spec to heal damage taken
Scholar - Spec to shield incoming damage
Astro - Buffs and Heals

Only roll we don't have is a debuffer but the debuff system in FFXIV is complicated and would need a rework for that to happen. Any healer will just be a copy and paste of one of the roles we already have, same shit different color. That is how I feel as a healer main but I know some are crying out for another job :3

That's fair enough, and I don't necessarily disagree, but the point is more "just because they don't add new jobs doesn't mean that the quality on old jobs goes up." They tried that in StB with tanks and healers, and spun their wheels a bunch, and ironically only made headway in ShB with the introduction of a new tank that changed the paradigm.

[LadyAveria]

That's fair enough, and I don't necessarily disagree, but the point is more "just because they don't add new jobs doesn't mean that the quality on old jobs goes up." They tried that in StB with tanks and healers, and spun their wheels a bunch, and ironically only made headway in ShB with the introduction of a new tank that changed the paradigm.

I agree with you that just because they don't add a new job doesn't mean they will work on old jobs, I just was hoping with the freed up resources they would haha

[SaberMaxwell]

I agree with you that just because they don't add a new job doesn't mean they will work on old jobs, I just was hoping with the freed up resources they would haha

I think I'm maybe jaded after 7 years with this game so I can't share that optimism; feels like every expansion they develop less for the player base while promising more. Though I am glad you do have that optimism, maybe it would work like that.

In either case though, they need to expand their combat design team to at least 1 person per role.

[ItMe]

"Need?"
No

"Want?"
That's a different story.
I'm sure most people have a favorite job they'd love to see added.
And there is no concrete trade off between getting a new job and the possibility of "focusing" on the existing ones.
Either way it's not really up to us. It's not like if they add jobs in 6.0 the community will not play them in protest or whatever. And as was said before:

[...] but new jobs and races sell expansions. They know that as well, so they'll keep adding jobs as long as it's feasible.