Lets talk about the FFXIV player base..

[Veis_Alveare]

I’d actually say a lot of the people that come from other games, specifically WoW are perhaps not sensitive enough.

Some online communities you see offensive things and hear offensive talk so much that you just kinda forget that it actually is offensive.

For example if you say to me FFS healer you’re so dumb move out of the f’ing fire... id say that’s not you being rude so much as you having had that told to you yourself and seen it so much that it’s just acceptable to you.

I think you're being incredibly hyperbolic here.

A much more apt example would be when I was helping a pair of sprouts in my FC unlock and complete the Nier raids recently. I went as a healer (both for safety and queue, they were both dps) and multiple times in a row my cohealer died to standing in the literal fire on Hobbes.

After their second death, and after I'd raised them again, I typed "fire bad" into chat.

Surprise surprise! We got a live one. They proceeded to do mostly nothing for the rest of the fight apart from say "toxic af" and /slap me (and die, of course) and then as soon as we'd rolled on loot a vote dismiss came up for me. My FC members voted no and so did enough of the party apparently because I was never kicked but like... yeah, I'm sorry, that isn't "toxic" and that guy was just oversensitive.

It's hardly his fault. It's the community that insulates these people and lets them believe even when they're literally on fire telling them to move is somehow a bad thing and also worse thing than their performance sandbagging their party.

We'll have to ignore the 4chan/WoW equivalence because there isn't time to unpack how wrong that is.

GCBTW.

[MagicAura]

After their second death, and after I'd raised them again, I typed "fire bad" into chat.

Surprise surprise! We got a live one. They proceeded to do mostly nothing for the rest of the fight apart from say "toxic af" and /slap me (and die, of course) and then as soon as we'd rolled on loot a vote dismiss came up for me. My FC members voted no and so did enough of the party apparently because I was never kicked but like... yeah, I'm sorry, that isn't "toxic" and that guy was just oversensitive.

I'm sorry but I have to disagree with your use of term oversensitive. There is never an excuse for attacking people over a semi-ironic comment (because granted your comment can be taken both ways even if you didn't mean it in an ironic way—you could have said "please avoid standing on the fire" for example). I would say there is never an excuse for any kind of abuse and he is clearly abusive. Being abusive is not because someone is oversensitive. There are other reasons and the situation is different.

Being oversensitive is usually something that leads people to clam down rather than lash out at others. Depending on the sensitivity people do different things but I've never met an oversensitive person lashing abusively at others when their sensitivity triggers.

[Veis_Alveare]

I'm sorry but I have to disagree with your use of term oversensitive. There is never an excuse for attacking people over a semi-ironic comment (because granted your comment can be taken both ways even if you didn't mean it in an ironic way—you could have said "please avoid standing on the fire" for example). I would say there is never an excuse for any kind of abuse and he is clearly abusive. Being abusive is not because someone is oversensitive. There are other reasons and the situation is different.

Being oversensitive is usually something that leads people to clam down rather than lash out at others. Depending on the sensitivity people do different things but I've never met an oversensitive person lashing abusively at others when their sensitivity triggers.

I see that literally all the time.

Like, not to get too far outside the game here, oversensitive people who are offended by minor things is kind of one of the defining cultural phenomena of the past decade or so. It's only ramping up even more as time goes on. Cancel culture is a product of this.

A really great youtuber named Natalie Wynne was basically bullied off Twitter for daring to have someone people didn't like voice act in one of her videos and for some comments that, if you squint really hard and have sand in your eyes, could be seen as the tiniest bit inconsiderate towards non-binary people. Never mind that she's trans herself, or that she's done worlds of good online for trans acceptance and all that. People got a little bit offended and were breaking out the guillotines.

Offense can be sadness but petty offense is often more akin to anger. If something hits you emotionally hard enough to make you cry you might close up for a bit, but if it hits you emotionally and also not that hard it'll likely just piss you off.

Edit: Also, no one should have to tell someone (much less ask them) to not stand in fire. It's a video game. That should be clear. There's no way to turn off the effect so they had to see it, plus it had killed them previously. At that point you don't need a please you need a bucket of cold water to the face... both to wake you up and because you're literally on fire, Brenda.