All Saints' Wake 2020

[Iscah]

I just want to know why they looked at two possible events - Make It Rain and freaking *Halloween* - and decided people would want the Gold Saucer event over Spookytime

Give us the old instance to run around for All Saints Wake and we'd be happy. We all loved that place.

I assume it's a matter of schedule and what projects they had underway when everything got disrupted. It was much closer to MIR than All Saints' Wake so they presumably had done more work on it.

For all we currently know, they might be reusing the haunted mansion again and just putting the entrance at GS instead of in Gridania.

[RicaRuin]

Alright, so the Event Page for Make it Rain is up. No mention of All Saints Wake rewards, just that the Haunted Manor/Masquerade will be avaible. Something that had been programmed before either way.

(And you know the places to check, no Halloween Items with the vendors.)

I'm a little sad.

[Iscah]

Did they ever confirmably say that we were getting rewards intended for All Saints' Wake, or did they perhaps just say that "content" from ASW was getting merged into Make It Rain?

I never actually wrote it out but I definitely thought the idea of including event rewards without the accompanying story seemed like a poor way to cut corners, since the two things usually go hand-in-hand - so by adding one without the other they would invalidate any work they'd done on scripts or storyboarding, since the story is unusable if the reward is already given. If instead they shelve the whole thing until next year, they can still make use of both pieces of work.

(Assuming they had done any work on it at all at the point where they had to replan their schedule, which they may not have.)

[TheMightyMollusk]

So the only new reward is an emote? Eh.

I'm more interested that the pugilist, gladiator, and miner guild masters are in the art.

[RicaRuin]

I had memorized that they said rewards would be shifted to MIR, but that was from a fan translation, so not a proper source.

Of course it's understandable, I'm just a little sad because I liked the stuff. But if Masquerade means that it's not just the Haunted Manor, but the Dress up as well, that is already really neat.

[Iscah]

So the only new reward is an emote? Eh.

*checks site*

"Consider"? Oh hey, looks like it's that emote I was wondering about previously! Cool.

Anyway, Make It Rain has always been minimal on prizes, hasn't it? In the few years I've been here I think there was only the hairstyle (RIP) and last year's Sabotender emote. Beyond that it's the MGP bonuses and the reduced prices that are the main "reward" of the event.

[Tlamila]

They did say in the live letter they'd probably put some halloween things in the cash shop so probably they'll do that instead of in game rewards. :/

[Enkidoh]

I just want to know why they looked at two possible events - Make It Rain and freaking *Halloween* - and decided people would want the Gold Saucer event over Spookytime

Give us the old instance to run around for All Saints Wake and we'd be happy. We all loved that place.

Probably because it's an event based on a distinctly US celebration not really followed in any other country other than local shops trying to make money from kids weaned on too much imported US pop culture (I'm Australian and here Halloween is regarded as "that crass American holiday" to put it politely and ignored by the majority of the population), and with FFXIV being a Japanese developed title made by a Japanese company, small wonder it got the short straw when SE had to decide on an event to sacrifice to get the development schedule back on track.

You have to remember that this is an international game that is to appeal to just not US players but players around the world. An event based on a cultural holiday particular to a certain country is always going to play second fiddle to events with more broader appeal, that's just being realistic, even if you don't throw the added disruption caused by the pandemic into the mix.

[Iscah]

They did say in the live letter they'd probably put some halloween things in the cash shop so probably they'll do that instead of in game rewards. :/

Most likely that will just be last year's Ahriman mount and anything else that came with it. There was probably food.

Probably because it's an event based on a distinctly US celebration not really followed in any other country other than local shops trying to make money from kids weaned on too much imported US pop culture...

You seem to be overthinking it. It's probably just about the timing.

In any case it's probably less awkward dumping MIR on top of Halloween rather than Christmas.

[MsQi]

Halloween is quite popular in Japan, though only in the last 20 years or so.