Is FFXIV hinting Berserker, Necromancer, and Chemist next expansion?

[Shougun]

And anything that focuses on those themes would basically be necro adjacent. Thematically I feel like there's the most room for a dark themed caster.

In the end this is what I think too.

If you make the dungeon important, which I think we all agree doesn't have to be, and say there exists a strong relationship between the jobs such that we would never see Berserker cause we've already warrior then:

Berserker -> Warrior
Thief -> Ninja
Necromancer -> ?

Summoner someone might say but I hardly got those vibes (may use ink mage to further distance that), unlike I could see clearly where berserker and thief were lining up from. Though I wouldn't die on that hill if someone was willing to die on the hill that necromancer was somehow summoner's mirror lol. As ultimately even if the boss means nothing you've still the entire good guy soul magic that is also teaching another.

The reason why I think this is relevant, and I've seen you said so we're really just choir agreeing now lol, is that the entire freaking expansion has had relationship to soul magic, and there is actually a character going out of their way to learn it, and on top of souls clearly being in the wheelhouse of necromancer (being very literally part of their general /non/gamer specific definition) that then there is this guy who looks kinda evil like when in battle mode.

I would toss my gil into the likelyhood that the mirror of necromancer is that dude over any other job we've got.

This also plays perfectly with providing a necromancer like theme'd job while also not taking a huge jump into the piranha infested waters of summoning skeletons (which is why I suggested when I made my dark healer thread, avoiding the human corpse enslavement). I still believe if you tried ridiculously hard and did things like shade beasts, using the blood of monsters only, with the use willing souls (this can be both malevolent and benevolent) and your own creation magic to create 'undead / undead' like apparitions- that you could get hyper close to necromancer without breaking lore AND without having to double censor yourself for China, to the point any foreign person to the game would see the job and say "yo, that's a necromancer", but man you're really trying at that point. Although I do enjoy coming up with those ideas lol- still my point of putting in that creative work was just to argue being creative and trying hard can move entire seas and mountains (without breaking lore), of course it only makes sense to try hard if it'll be worth it / fun (which is where I guess I can see some people holding tightly to the game and saying "NO GET BACK STAY AWAY" lol, but at least I hope wherever possible to see more creative communication and less walls for the sake of preventing something).

I suppose people worry about others running around a chainsaw near the lore, but seeing as I've guessed (more likely) and or helped influence (less likely but possible) a few direction shifts in the lore already I feel like I'm at least half capable of emulating what seems logically plausible. (SMN, Beast Race, Beast Tribe, Job progression, I've done a fairly decent job on getting close enough they read very similarly, which either makes me believe SE absolutely listens to feedback regularly or I'm this forums budget Nostradamus, heck even on non-related content like SE response would be for the two races (Viera / Hrothgar).. I had did fairly close emulation of what would be said /done. Not saying I'm perfect but hopefully people might think to trust I'm not going to purposefully take a huge dump on their game, and am not completely unhinged, because it's 'my game' too lol.

Like if we're being serious, soul mage has been more discussed and exampled MORE than chemist. Because soul magic has been of massive import for basically the entire expansion, and shown as a learnable skill as well (so it's not just 'fae magic only'). And in relevance to the discussion beyond using "google defines necromancer to commune with the dead and spirits" is that the soul mage did have a very evil / dark magic vibe when in their battle format.

On top of that one of the favored jobs story of this game is dark knight, and the most popular expansion also is playing with dark and chaotic things (for much of the expansion there is an exceptional burden)- that this makes something necromancer-adjacent seem possible to me, as necromancer could continue what has proven to be popular concepts. And like I said before while I wouldn't gamble on my suggestion of getting hyper close to necromancer, I would gamble a little bit on a soul magic job that was FFXIV's response to players wanting something dark and something necro related. I only put so much thought into ways to make it happen as I don't appreciate conversations being obstructed due to overconfidence, much rather swim in the unprotected dangerous waters and hit a few sharks on accident and SE if they liked what they saw would perfect it up before going forward (I have faith SE both cares of feedback but also the mind not implement the most wackadoodle idea someone came up with 1:1, they'll only be inspired rather).

Not that it has to be that fae's job even, just if we're sitting here arguing references that fae is worth pointing out as they've far more presence than chemist does (and a fairly easily arguable relationship to necromancer, but in a more positive light obviously). Not that I'm discounting chemist.

Necromancer from V(and only that one version, was it advanced?) was literally a reskinned Summoner job though, theres your parallel(Ranjits class is supposed to be what Dragoons are in Norvrandt). Though you make a lot of great points. Gunbreaker technically isnt really an official classic job, but they made it work and into a new job this expansion and im willing to bet we will see some more of that same. We could get something new for sure. Also have to remember, Red Mage and Blue Mage would never be added into this game because they would be too hard to implement. Yet here we are. Because Gunbreaker is here, it leads me to believe that popularity and requests(for a type of job) will still be a real possibility. I also believe they will mostly prioritize classic jobs, because this is a Final Fantasy. Anything is speculative at this point, but that also means somethings are on the table, and others may not be.

Their Oath skill is more like Ranger's skill than a Summoners though, since they had a pet but also then had a lot of other side magics. Maybe I would call them a unique dark element theme'd black mage with a dark element ranger pet lol. Although what I find more likely that FFV reborn is that they're going to make something new, well if they were going to do something at all, in which case it's a brand new frontier.

https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki...Fantasy_V_job)

They actually have quite a few pretty neat skills. Their ultimate makes them turn undead like a Lich .

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https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki...Fantasy_V_job)

They actually have quite a few pretty neat skills. Their ultimate makes them turn undead like a Lich .

Okay... this makes a lot of sense then, considering most of DRK magic like abilities are stripped and the term "Dark Arts" is nothing more than a buff they can rename to anything, just to keep Darkside active now. This could definitely be either a full on caster dps with some raid healing utility, or a dark themed healer that heals through damaging and or the use of 12's Arcane School of magic primarilly. I got you. Guess we will have to see, but if thats the case then I won't be as mad

[Shougun]

Okay... this makes a lot of sense then, considering most of DRK magic like abilities are stripped and the term "Dark Arts" is nothing more than a buff they can rename to anything, just to keep Darkside active now. This could definitely be either a full on caster dps with some raid healing utility, or a dark themed healer that heals through damaging and or the use of 12's Arcane School of magic primarilly. I got you. Guess we will have to see, but if thats the case then I won't be as mad

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Definitely has a lot of cool potential that hasn't been fully tapped by the game yet, and I'm of the mind the darker jobs have some of the best unique story potentials due to the requirements that are needed to make them flow in our game universe (they, generally, demand some more creative solutions than a straight forward story), but of course I'm not claiming it will happen just that something around that 'area' could and also has some hints existing in game if we want to play the reference game lol (with considerations like we don't raise human corpses as slaves for battle lol).

With 400 walls of text I might look like the most stubborn dodo but I was just merely protecting the ground of potential with my fat cat bum. If someone wants something different that is fine, we only get 2-3 jobs per expansion so everyone is going to want a piece of that delicious pie- and I love hearing peoples ideas on what they want to see (just not on how other people can't see what they want ).

I personally would love a dark theme'd job of any sort, but I would extra love if it was built around the concept of transformations, as I think the gameplay, visuals, and story that would result from that would be really fun (dynamic gameplay, curse/burdened story line, varied and viscous visuals). Inspiration from like Dante's devil trigger, Yuri's harmonixer transformations (Shadow Hearts), Vincent's Chaos Materia (dirge of Cerberus), etc.

Of course what I want doesn't actually have much of a historical job beyond Vincent, Terra Branford (esperkin), and maybe what's going on in FFXVI's trailer - annndd it's not like it has ever made any polls. Pretty sure Necromancer was much higher than morpher (closest FF 'job' to the concept) and it's not like I even want morpher since that'd probably be a limited job. So I'm on the real pipe dream train lol.

Or you know.... ink mage... it's totally going to be ink mage next!

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Or you know.... ink mage... it's totally going to be ink mage next!

That one threw me for a loop. And then I remembered Relm from FF6, that is essentially what an ink mage is, i think. I'm not entirely sure cause they seem to be arcanists, but when I think about the term ink mage, thats what popped in my mind.

[Seraphor]

That one threw me for a loop. And then I remembered Relm from FF6, that is essentially what an ink mage is, i think. I'm not entirely sure cause they seem to be arcanists, but when I think about the term ink mage, thats what popped in my mind.

I mean, isn't Relm just an Arcanist who makes up her own geometry?