[dev1237] Why take skill out of crafting?

[RemVye]

Reading Comprehension is the root cause for 90% of the Lodestone Forum threads/posts.

[AuctionGirl]

Explain why they would split it into 2 categories...

When using Disciple of the Hand equipment and the appropriate abilities, Quality will improve during synthesis by 300 to 600 points.

(Example)
When all items are HQ items
Final Quality will be between 800–1,000 (odds of producing an HQ item range from 50% to 100%).

When all items are normal items
Final Quality will be between 300–600 (odds of producing an HQ item range from 0% to 10%).

* Actual figures are still under development. They may be adjusted or changed depending on feedback.

Wouldn't this best be written as...

Based on ending quality...
600 quality = 10% chance of HQ
800 quality = 50% chance of HQ
1000 quality = 100% chance of HQ

If you use all HQ ingredients, you start with 500 quality.

[RemVye]

Explain why they would split it into 2 categories...



Wouldn't this best be written as...

Based on ending quality...
600 quality = 10% chance of HQ
800 quality = 50% chance of HQ
1000 quality = 100% chance of HQ

If you use all HQ ingredients, you start with 500 quality.

This is a struggle for you to grasp. Just keep reading it and maybe it will sink in. Or go back and read everyone's post. It has been explained at least 10 times already.

[Skies]

Explain why they would split it into 2 categories...



Wouldn't this best be written as...

Based on ending quality...
600 quality = 10% chance of HQ
800 quality = 50% chance of HQ
1000 quality = 100% chance of HQ

If you use all HQ ingredients, you start with 500 quality.

Sometimes people don't write stuff in the easiest manner to read, but that doesn't means it looses it's intended meaning, just takes a bit more brainwork.

[Yoohre_WildRiver]

The other 10 percent is just replying to the title

[AuctionGirl]

Maybe I need English as a Second Language to understand this. Or they need better interpreters. I have a feeling I am correct about how its going to work, and you guys are comprehending this incorrectly.

Can we please get a DEV to clarify how this will work. Thank you.

[RemVye]

Sometimes people don't write stuff in the easiest manner to read, but that doesn't means it looses it's intended meaning, just takes a bit more brainwork.

loose like change!

It's written fine.

R e a d i n g C o m p r e h e n s i o n C a n I H a v e I t , P l e a s e A n d T h a n k Y o u. T h i s A c t u a l l y L o o k s K i n d O f C o o l I M i g h t C o n t i n u e T o T y p e L i k e T h i s !

[NoctisUmbra]

Step 1: Fail at reading comprehension.
Step 2: Complain about a misunderstanding.

Yup, FFXIV forums.

@AuctionGirl: you've got it way wrong. Let me try to clear this up for you in the simplest terms.

1. When synthesis materials consist exclusively of normal items, the initial Quality will be close to zero. If all materials are HQ items, then the initial Quality will be around 500.
2. When using Disciple of the Hand equipment and the appropriate abilities, Quality will improve during synthesis by 300 to 600 points.

(Example)
When all items are HQ items
Final Quality will be between 800–1,000 (odds of producing an HQ item range from 50% to 100%).

When all items are normal items
Final Quality will be between 300–600 (odds of producing an HQ item range from 0% to 10%).
* Actual figures are still under development. They may be adjusted or changed depending on feedback.

Pay special attention to bullet points 1 and 2.

1. tells you where you can expect your Quality value to be from the get-go based on whether you use all NQ mats or all HQ mats - 0 and 500 respectively.
2. tells you how much Quality gain an average person is expected to increase Quality during synthesis, provided they are well-equipped. The key here is this is a projection. Based on the rate at which they set Quality to increase, they are telling us how much we can expect to be able to increase Quality in the process of a single synthesis.

Now, the part you seem to be stuck on can be demystified quite readily. However it requires proficiency with a mathematical process known as Addition.

HQ mats: Start: 500 > Synthesis adds 300-600 > Result: [(500+300) - (500+600)] => [800-1,100].
They simply rounded this off at 1,000, which either means it's a Quality cap, or probably means at 1,000 you get HQ rate of 100% and thus no point in considering higher values.
NQ mats: Start: 0 > Synthesis adds 300-600 > Result [(0+300) - (0+600)] => [300-600]

The Quality ranges given are based on the values explained earlier in the post. Nothing suggests HQ mats give a bonus other than the initial 500 Quality.

[zaviermhigo]

I hate the loose lose thing, if english is your 2nd language I understand but can you please remember loose = baggy, not tight and lose= opposite of win. I am going to read it loose everytime, even if know you meant lose, because that's how I read my language.

HQ's shouldn't be particularly easier, but honestly this was needed, I could get almost fail a craft, like 2 durability and 30 quality, and low and behold BAM HQ, wtf?!?! It might not fix that problem, but it will at least let me know why I was hq'ing on that awful synth. As a weaver, careful is no problem, but on other classes these crappy hq synths happen, and on wvr when I try to hq its not happening.

[Colino]

Wait wait... skill? crafting?

What is this nonsense, all everyone ever told me was use Hand of the Gods and press enter until it's finished.

Seems to work fine for me.