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    inventory in this game is weird and inefficiently set up, and it seems like it was an effort to get the dresser working at all. (And indeed that it's the dresser and not a more all-encompassing log, as people keep hoping for.) While I don't have knowledge of its inner workings, from the little explanation I've seen, I wouldn't be at all surprised for it to genuinely not work even though similar things do.

    Again, if there's no actual difficulty for them to implement it, why would they choose to withhold it from us?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    Again, if there's no actual difficulty for them to implement it, why would they choose to withhold it from us?
    I do not know the real reason why we can't have it, but it is disappointing that the reason that SE has given doesn't make any sense. The real reason is probably that the Glamour Dresser is spaghetti code and they'd have to spend a lot of resources redoing it in order for it to work in houses. Instead of saying this, they've given a vague answer about how it has to do with the fact that you would be able to move / remove the object. Unless the coding really is just that bad, I would hope that the Glamour Dresser is just like the Summoning Bell in that it's just a normal object that, by right clicking on it, sends a command to the game to pull the information stored on SE's side for the Glamour Dresser. If that were the case, then moving / removing it shouldn't be an issue because it would just be moving / removing the terminal for you to access that data; it shouldn't be the case that moving / removing the Glamour Dresser actually would delete that data unless they've coded it in some absolutely absurd way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoH View Post
    I do not know the real reason why we can't have it, but it is disappointing that the reason that SE has given doesn't make any sense.
    If the glamour dresser were only a storage depot, I'd agree.

    But ...

    There are glamour plates associated with the dresser, and their location makes it simpler to keep track of what is in the dresser and assigned to a plate, as well as what is assigned to a plate and no longer in the dresser. You can put an item in the glamour dresser, create a plate for it, and then remove the item. The plate still exists.

    The retainer bell, on the other hand, contains zero information about what's in your retainer inventory. That is associated with each individual retainer. Remove the retainer, and the associated inventory is lost, permanently. The retainer bell still brings up your current retainers.

    Remove the glamour dresser (and associated plates) from your house and it exists, where?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DPZ2 View Post
    If the glamour dresser were only a storage depot, I'd agree.

    But ...

    There are glamour plates associated with the dresser, and their location makes it simpler to keep track of what is in the dresser and assigned to a plate, as well as what is assigned to a plate and no longer in the dresser. You can put an item in the glamour dresser, create a plate for it, and then remove the item. The plate still exists.

    The retainer bell, on the other hand, contains zero information about what's in your retainer inventory. That is associated with each individual retainer. Remove the retainer, and the associated inventory is lost, permanently. The retainer bell still brings up your current retainers.

    Remove the glamour dresser (and associated plates) from your house and it exists, where?
    As I said, I would hope that the Glamour Dresser, in terms of how it actually works on the back end, is just a terminal that by right-clicking on it accesses the glamour data for your character that is stored on SE's servers. It is not a real, physical dresser with stuff in it - it is just an object associated with some code that tells the game to pull data from SE's servers. It's the same as the armoire - if you remove that object, where does the stuff in it go? It doesn't "go" anywhere - you just can't access that data without it because you removed the terminal to interface with that data. Also, you can see (but not edit) the glamour plates anywhere in the real world through the character menu without the dresser.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoH View Post
    Also, you can see (but not edit) the glamour plates anywhere in the real world through the character menu without the dresser.
    That last one is kinda untrue AFAIK,the ability to view the plates is only available in places where they can be used, which means hub/housing areas in the overworld. Anywhere outside whose, and the plates won't activate (if tied to gearsets) nor can they be viewed
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    Last edited by Morningstar1337; 09-21-2020 at 08:51 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morningstar1337 View Post
    That last one is kinda untrue AFAIK,the ability to view the plates is only available in places where they can be used, which means hub/housing areas in the overworld. Anywhere outside whose, and the plates won't activate (if tied to gearsets) nor can they be viewed
    Fair, that's true - the point that I was trying to make is that glamour plates are not saved "in" the Glamour Dresser, nor would they go away simply because you no longer have access to a Glamour Dresser. You can view/apply (but not change) them in zones that are sanctuaries even when there is no Glamour Dresser (e.g., the Doman Enclave). The Glamour Plates are simply data saved somewhere on SE's servers, not in a visual object in a certain zone; that object is just how they let you interact with the interface whereby you can edit them.
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